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I am an avid-IG player but I wanted something a bit unique. I was playing around with some homebrew codex ideas, like a futuristic human socialist republic! Hahaha, much like the Soviet Union but in the 40k universe. I haven't gotten far at all in terms of units or fluff but I have one basic troop and a rough idea of where I want to go with this. I just want a bit of feedback on points and things.

USRDC (United Socialist Republic Defense Corps)

Defense Corps Infantry -
Stats
WS BS S T I W A Ld Sv
3 2 3 3 3 1 1 6 6+

Composition: 5 Infantrymen base

Wargear:
Mark 2 Conscripts "SOB" Combat Rifle-
Str 3 AP -, Rapid Fire

Options:
Can take up to 15 additional infantrymen- X points each


Still thinking of ways to maybe include 1-2 special weapons (maybe 1 special weapon per 10 men?). And for points wise, Im really not sure (was never good with points). For stats I used a IG Conscript, gave him standard WS, one more point of Ld, and 1 less level of Sv (the standard Infantry for the USRDC don't even wear body armor and what is there barely stops rounds by todays standards so I feel like 40K weapons will have ease defeating them. The USR Marines will have better equipment and stats, but less of them).

I envisioned the USR infantry as a easy to slaughter, really cheap, barely efficient, meat-shield for the USR Marines who are the REAL soldiers (more akin to IG vets). I originally had them at 3 points a model but that would mean 15 points to take a 5 man squad.....and 60 points for 20 of them....I thought that was just too little....any comments? Once I fix them up a bit and add more units to the Codex I will write full out fluff for them...until then any questions in that regard ask because I do have a rough vision for them]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847106.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847106.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847121.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847121.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847182.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847182.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847188.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847188.page GMT
Edit: That's just with this. I may not give them the option of Special Weapons but....if I do it would only be cheaper ones like flamers and GL's. I don't see these guys fielding Meltas and Plasma, not like it would be much use to them either with a BS of 2....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847201.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847201.page GMT
Squad of 10 with a... Sergent? in there for 40 points
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847205.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847205.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847223.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847223.page GMT 2d6. On the roll of a double 1, they open fire on the nearest friendly unit unless their is your HQ Soviet within 12"?

and the roll of a Double 6, they fire Twin Linked on the nearest enemy unit


2 - Feth you!: The *Forgot the name of them....* opens fire on the nearest friendly unit, UNLESS the *Generic HQ Character* is within 12" in which case, you continue as normal this turn.
3-11 Okay Boss...: The *Forgot the name of them....* act as normal this turn... Obidient as ever!
12 - Hey.. Hey Boss! BOSS!!: The *Forgot the name of them....* Open fire on the nearest enemy unit and count any guns wielded by the *Forgot the name of them....* as Twin Linked this turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847236.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847236.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847247.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847247.page GMT
It'll prompt some form of babysitting and make their cheapness sorta okay.

AND if they get a 12, they'll feel compelled to show off in front of the Tsar !

2 - Feth you!: The *Forgot the name of them....* opens fire on the nearest friendly unit, UNLESS the *Generic HQ Character* is within 12" in which case, you continue as normal this turn.
3-11 Okay Boss...: The *Forgot the name of them....* act as normal this turn... Obidient as ever!
12 - Hey.. Hey Boss! BOSS!!: The *Forgot the name of them....* Open fire on the nearest enemy unit and count any guns wielded by the *Forgot the name of them....* as Twin Linked this turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847251.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847251.page GMT

Defense Corps Infantry - 20 points
Stats
WS BS S T I W A Ld Sv
3 2 3 3 3 1 1 6 6+

Composition: 5 Infantrymen base

Wargear:
Mark 2 Conscripts "SOB" Combat Rifle-
Str 3 AP -, Rapid Fire

Options:
Can take up to 15 additional infantrymen- 4 points each

Special Rules:
"Ey, he's watching!"~

At the beginning of each shooting phase, role 2D6 per unit on the field. Then consult this chart:

2 - Ya know...the pay really aint worth it!: The unit opens fire on the nearest friendly unit, UNLESS the commandant is within 12" in which case, you continue as normal this turn.
3-11 Okay Boss...: The unit acts as normal this turn... Obedient as ever!
12 - Hey.. Hey Boss! BOSS!!: The unit opens fire on the nearest enemy unit and count any guns wielded by the unit as Twin Linked this turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847273.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847273.page GMT
I had an idea with normal IG IS to allow them to take 2 special weapons per squad but limit them to flamers and GL simple because IS shouldnt be handling plasma guns imo. So i think that would work well, give them more of a choice if you want by adding in a "LMG." Make it a salvo weapon, same strength just 2/4.

So 20 men for 80 points with 20 points to spend on gear isnt too bad. You could make the Sergeant a 5 or 10 point upgrade with LD8 for some staying power. Maybe an upgrade for better body armor. I like it, cheap throw away troops with some staying power, so essentially conscripts with the ability to take a sergeant and special weapons. I think that would basically fix conscripts.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847361.page GMT BS, and the WS3 is kinda to represent the fact the "soviets" are better at stabbing you than shooting. And with the gun-linish and bubble-wrap nature of them I don't see them hitting melee too often and when they do 1 more point of WS isn't gonna fix whatever you screwed up hahahaha so I see that as kinda irrelevant.

I like the special weapons idea you have. I may make it like 1 special weapon per 10 men. That gives you 2 in a 20 man squad. And I was thinking of allowing them a "lmg team" too. Just to allow some variety in how someone would want to run them. I also like the sergeant as an upgrade. I want to stay away from including leaders in the troops choices by default because of the fluff behind them. However the upgrade thing would be cool, but instead of adding a "Sergeant" im thinking more of adding a "Commissar" (a sergeant equiv. Not the IG like commissars) to fit the soviet theme. Let me do some points crunching and writing and I shall make an upgrade


Edit: UPGRADES! Again, points are just kinda a crap-shoot until I can get some discussion down on the use of them...

Defense Corps Infantry - 20 points
Stats
WS BS S T I W A Ld Sv
3 2 3 3 3 1 1 6 6+

Composition: 5 Infantrymen base

Wargear:
Mark 2 Conscripts "SOB" Combat Rifle-
Str 3 AP -, Rapid Fire

Options:
Can take up to 15 additional infantrymen- 4 points each
May take up to 1 special weapon per 10 men and can ONLY take Grenade Launchers and Flamers- 5 points each
Can take 1 "Commissar" - 10 points
May also take 1 LMG team with a Mark 3 Squad Fire Support System (SFSS) which replaces 2 models *may only take 1 special weapon in the squad if taking an LMG*- 10 points
May also take advanced integrated combat armor, making a 4+ save- 15 points

Special Rules:
"Ey, he's watching!"~

At the beginning of each shooting phase, role 2D6 per unit on the field. Then consult this chart:

2 - Ya know...the pay really aint worth it!: The unit opens fire on the nearest friendly unit, UNLESS the commandant is within 12" in which case, you continue as normal this turn.
3-11 Okay Boss...: The unit acts as normal this turn... Obedient as ever!
12 - Hey.. Hey Boss! BOSS!!: The unit opens fire on the nearest enemy unit and count any guns wielded by the unit as Twin Linked this turn.


New Stats:
Commissar
WS BS S T I W A Ld Sv
3 3 3 3 3 1 1 8 4+

Squad Fire Support System
Str 4 Ap- Salvo (2/4)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847413.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4847413.page GMT
1: Since no one seems to comment on things if they are okay, im guessing I nailed it down (close enough to) with that?

2: Working on an HQ unit and another troops choice as well.

3: Anyone have a good template for Fandex's? Would make this so much easier]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4850174.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4850174.page GMT 2d6 for each unit might be irritating, but that's a minor problem. maybe let them have big squads - 5-80 dudes maybe? What would a commissar do? standard IG commissar I presume? If so, 10 pts seems a bit cheap.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4850250.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4850250.page GMT IG commissar. It's just a fancy name for a sergeant. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4850277.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4850277.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4853086.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480985/4853086.page GMT