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HQ
Chaos Lord (MoS, Lightning Claw, Bike) - 115
>> Goes with the MoS Bikers. MoS unlocks the Noise Marines and makes him able to kill almost anything that doesnt have a 2+ in a challenge. Being in a bike unit means i can usually avoid the 2+ guys.

Sorcerer (Lv 3) - 110
>> Goes with Noise Marines. Theya re usually close enough to the rest of the marines to give out buffs, close enough to the enemy to debuff and he doest get a fearless and extra bodies when his rhino gets wrecked.

Troops
Chaos Space Marines (5 Extras, 2x Plasmagun)
- Rhino - 205
Chaos Space Marines (5 Extras, 2x Plasmagun)
- Rhino - 205
Noise Marines (Doom Siren)
- Rhino - 145
Noise Marines (Doom Siren)
- Rhino - 145
>> Presence on the middle of the board. Bolters, anti-marine fire and anti-terminator fire. Geared to shoot down infantary.

Chaos Cultists (Heavy Stubber) - 55
>> Back campers. There to sit onto a objective, go to ground if shot at.


Fast Attack
Chaos Bikers (3 Extras, MoS, Lightning Claw, 2x Meltagun, Icon of Excess) - 212
Chaos Bikers (4 Extras, MoK, Lightning Claw, 2x Meltagun) - 199
>> Main melee units. Fast and get a mean charge. Also, carry meltas because sometimes dealing with high AV is necessary.

Heavy Support
Havocs (4 autocannons) - 115
Havocs (4 autocannons) - 115
Havocs (4 autocannons) - 115
Can openers. Triple up as anti-air and anti-infantary.


The list is playing reasonably well, but i have problems dealing with 2+ saves and high AV long ranged units. The first i can do a reasonable job when pumping every shooting i get into the army to them - it takes a while, but can be done. The second, i need to divert a full bike squad to the backfield to deal with it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/484403/4901850.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/484403/4901850.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/484403/4901860.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/484403/4901860.page GMT
Nothing to deal with flyers also. 24 auto cannon shots arnt gonna cut it, especially if they use a helldrake with balefire. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/484403/4901959.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/484403/4901959.page GMT MoS to unlock Noise Marines wasn't much of a expense. And with I6, he can kill most of the chanllenges before they strike.

I am, however, not sold on sonic blasters. They force the squad to disembark, and kill its mobility. But they do give a nice firebase at longer range. I guess i will have to experiment.

Yeah, i have nothing to deal with flyers. Chaos doesn't really have a answer to that except for overly expensive flakk missile launchers. And those give me twice the hits the ACs give, for a 50% increase in the cost of the unit.

The autocannons can put a couple wounds per round on a AV 12 flyer, but the plan was to deal with the ground forces and them survive whatever the flyers bring in. Will not work against a Necron Flyer Circus, but might be enough to deal with a couple flyers from other codexes. Also, if anything presents their AV 10 behinds, well, then ACs should be enough. Also, as a last resort, also have a couple plasmaguns that can fire up if needed. It is not much, but will be far from the havocs and might be enough to get a flyer from the back angle.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/484403/4902263.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/484403/4902263.page GMT