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				<description><![CDATA[ Alright, so i'm think of a idea for a new army. Salamanders. I want a mid-range, quick, hard hitting force. Keep the opponent off balance and just keep coming. I have two lists, don't know which to start basing it off of and what to do to the chosen list to make it better. I welcome all C&C.<br /> <br /> <strike><b>List 1</b><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Vulkan<br /> <i>he will ride in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span> w/ the termies (naturally)</i><br /> <br /> Master of the Forge w/ Conversion Beam - 120pts<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> 5 Assault Termies w/ 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>&<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span><br /> <i>in the raider, heart of the assault</i><br /> 5 Sternguard w/ 5 combi-meltas & drop pod - 185pts<br /> 5 Sternguard w/ 4 combi-flamers & drop pod - 180pts<br /> <i>suicide groups to pop whatever i find threatening at the time</i><br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines w/ melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, combi-melta, rhino - 220pts<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines w/ flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, combi-flamer, rhino - 215pts<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines w/ flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, rhino - 205pts<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Storm Talon w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>, TML - 155pts<br /> Storm Talon w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(478);'>TLAC</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> LasCan - 150pts<br /> Attack Bike w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> - 50pts<br /> <br /> 2000pts<br /> <br /> <b>List 2</b><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Vulkan<br /> <i>he will ride in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span> w/ the termies (naturally)</i><br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> 5 Assault Termies w/ 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>&<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span><br /> <i>in the raider</i><br /> Dreadnought w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, drop pod - 150pts<br /> 5 Sternguard w/ 5 combi-meltas, drop pod - 185pts<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Ageis Defense Line w/ Quad Gun - 100pts<br /> 5 Scouts w/ SRs, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>, cloaks - 100pts<br /> <i>they will sit in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span></i><br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines w/ melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, combi-melta, rhino - 220pts<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines w/ flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, combi-flamer, rhino - 215pts<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines w/ flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, combi-flamer, rhino - 215pts<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Attack Bike w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> - 50pts<br /> <br /> 2000pts</strike><br /> <br /> NEW LIST BELOW<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:29:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your 2nd list looks remarkably similar to mine, and I've had success with it.  I do have reservations about the Storm Talon, I'm not particularly impressed with it to be honest.  Give the Sgt. in your 1st <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad a combi-flamer as well, combi template weapons are the best, zero chance to miss.  You may want to find some way to field some stand off fire power, like a Predator  or a Thunderfire cannon, something that can reach out and touch your opponent on turn 1, keep you from loosing first blood.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:2000pt Competitive Salamanders 'Tip of the Spear'</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ hmm, true. do you think dropping the storm talon and taking a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(384);'>MotF</span> w/ conversion beamer, put him with the scouts, then with the leftover points is just enough to take an attack bike w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> would be better? or take those 50-55points and give the serg's power weapons?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:53:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The attack bike for sure.  Power weapons on tactical squads really aren't that helpful.  All they do is help you weather an assault you shouldn't be in in the first place.  As far as the attack bike goes,  I personally prefer Land Speeders as a quick melta delivery system, but you don't have the points to afford one, so attack bike it is.  Second, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(384);'>MotF</span> with conversion beamer is actually a pretty good idea that I may just have to try out in my list.  I've got an old pewter one who's been gathering dust in a closet somewhere, he'll appreciate seeing the light of day for once.  Lastly, you may want to consider switching one of your tactical squad rhinos for a third drop pod.  3 pods is the magic number, since you round up the number of pods coming in on turn one, you always want to have an odd number.  This will allow you to drop the Dreadnought and the Sternguard turn one, then drop a scoring Tactical squad right on top of an objective on a later turn.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Just realised this too, if you put the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(384);'>MotF</span> with the Scouts, he can fire the Quad Gun, and he's BS5!.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 Oct 2012 02:52:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:2000pt Competitive Salamanders 'Tip of the Spear'</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I love it. so here is the new list. Again, all C&C are welcome. This is suppose to be a hard hitting, in your face army. Throw the enemy off balance and hit them where it hurts as quick as possible.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Vulkan<br /> <i>he will ride in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span> w/ the termies (naturally)</i><br /> <br /> Master of the Forge w/ Conversion Beam - 120pts<br /> <i>he will be in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> with the scouts</i><br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> 5 Assault Termies w/ 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>&<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span> w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> - 450pts<br /> <i>in the raider, heart of the assault</i><br /> Dreadnought w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, drop pod - 150pts<br /> 5 Sternguard w/ 5 combi-meltas, drop pod - 185pts<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Ageis Defense Line w/ Quad Gun - 100pts<br /> 5 Scouts w/ SRs, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>, cloaks - 100pts<br /> <i>they will sit in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span></i><br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines w/ melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, combi-melta, drop pod - 220pts<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines w/ flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, combi-flamer, rhino - 215pts<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines w/ flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, combi-flamer, rhino - 215pts<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Attack Bike w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> - 50pts<br /> <br /> 1995pt<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:57:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ blood_knight]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nothing else from the peanut gallery?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 27 Oct 2012 06:53:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:2000pt Competitive Salamanders 'Tip of the Spear'</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Pondering]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:12:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think the last list you've posted should prove to be rather successful, but I suppose you knew that already.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ alienvalentine]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i figure it should do good. but i thought i might get some more thoughts. both good and bad<br /> <br /> this is going to be my new pet project. forge world army, so i want to be sure this is the right list before i drop a metric butt load of money into it]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:56:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ blood_knight]]></author>
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