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Space Marines - 1535

HQ: Forgefather Vulkan He'stan, 190 pts

HQ: Space Marine Librarian in Power Armour w/ Combi-Flamer

Elite: Ironclad Dreadnought (Seismic hammer, meltagun, dccw, Heavy Flamer) 190 pts
Drop Pod, Locator Beacon

Troops: Tactical Squad 235 pts
9 Tactical Squad, Meltagun
Sergeant, Melta Bombs Combi-Meltagun
Drop Pod, Locator Beacon

Troops: Tactical Squad 235 pts
9 Tactical Squad, Meltagun
Sergeant, Melta Bombs Combi-Meltagun
Drop Pod, Locator Beacon

Troops: Tactical Squad 100pts
4 Tactical Squad
Sergeant, + Combi-Meltagun

Fast Attack: Attack Bike Squad 150 pts
3 Attack Bike Squad, Multi-melta x3

Fast Attack: Storm Talon Gunship 150 pts
1 Storm Talon Gunship, Twin-Linked Lascannon

Heavy Support: Thunderfire Cannon 100 pts

: Aegis Defence Lines 70 pts
Comms Relay

Elysians - 465

HQ: Elysian Company Command Squad 85 pts
4 Elysian Company Command Squad, Meltagun x3
Company Commander

Troops: Elysian Veteran Squad 90 pts
9 Elysian Veteran Squad, Meltagun x1
Veteran Sergeant

Fast Attack: Vendetta Gunship Squadron 130 pts
1 Vendetta, 130 pts

Heavy Support: Vulture 160 pts
1 Vulture, Infrared Targetting + Twin-linked Punisher Cannon

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5man sm squad campes comms relay until reserves have arrived.
Veterans fly in Vendetta, so to many special weapons are a waste, ccs deepstrikes and nuke armor. They often only have time to kill 1 tank, which means 4 meltaguns are to many, 2 are often not enough, so 3 are just right, I think

Vulkan and Libby drops togehter in the same pod, split tacticals in combat squad, where all the melta in one, and all the regulars join the hqs. For the well known can-opener combo, of popping it open with melta, and flaming the contents.(Hence the combi-flamer on the Librarian)
And then hightail it outta' there with GOI, if they survive that long.

Why a 5 man tac squad instead of scouts? Well, they live longer in cc and in the open, and can gtg for the same coversave as scouts. And scouts can't shoot straight for gak anyways..

I have considered bringing back my Vindicators from retirement, but don't think they fit in this list that well, because they need more armor support.

I know this is not an optimal list for Vulkan, but I need the twin-link rule. I can't seem to roll a hit without him.

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It seems like a decent shooty list. I'm worried that you're missing a good assault unit though, I would lose the 5-man tact squad and the attack bikes for a 6-man TH/SS assault termie squad for an extra threat.

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The Punisher cannons are heavy 20, str 5 ap- 24" range.

In 5th I often brought TH/SS termies, but unless they have a transport, they are to easy to outmanouvre and/or slow down with path blocking, and getting the charge with them(ie setting the terms) is difficult..
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TL Heavy 20??? Wow, nice.

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