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Emperor's Champion - 140 Points
AAC
(This guy will most likely join one of the two crusader squads and camp on the objective.)

Master of Snctity - 350 Points
Artificer Armor, Auspex, Terminator Honours, Assault Grenades, BP, Crozius Arcanum
Command Squad
x3 Initiate with BP and CCW
x2 Initiates with Meltaguns
x1 Apothecary with BP CCW
x1 Sergeant with Terminator Honours, BP and PF
Skills: Infiltrate

Reclusiarch - 315 Points
BP, Crozius Arcanum, Terminator Honours, Auspex, Assault Grenades
Command Squad
x3 Initiate with BP and CCW
x2 Initiates with Meltaguns
x1 Apothecary with BP CCW
x1 Sergeant with Terminator Honours, BP and PF
Skills: Infiltrate

(The two command squads will infiltrate ahead and try to cause as much damage by dropping melta on tanks and assaulting what they can.)

++Troops++

Crusader Squad - 285 Points
x5 Initiates with BP and CCW
x3 Initiates with Bolters
x1 Initiate with Meltagun
x1 Initiate with Lascannon
x10 Neophytes with BP CCW

Crusader Squad - 285 Points
x5 Initiates with BP and CCW
x3 Initiates with Bolters
x1 Initiate with Meltagun
x1 Initiate with Lascannon
x10 Neophytes with Shotguns

(These two squads will most likely hang out togeather and camp down on an objective. I play tested with these guys and I have to say, the sheer amount of attacks they get on the charge in nice, even if they lose some to shooting before they get to their target.)
++Fast Attack++

Land Speeder Typhoon - 70 Points
Land Speeder Typhoon - 70 Points

++Heavy Support++

Predator Annihilator - 145 Points
x1 TL LC
x2 LC sponsons

++Allies++

Lord Commissar - 80 Points
BP, Power Sword

Veteran Squad - 130 Points
x5 Veterans with lasguns
x3 Veterans with Meltaguns
x1 Veteran with Demo charge
x1 Sergeant with Shotgun
Doctrines: Demolitions

Vendetta Gunship - 130 Points

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I play tested this army the other day, and I have to say I was very pleased on how well it did. The command squads took a beating up front but held their own once put into decent cover or get them selves into assault. My first list used sword brethren squads, but I found the command squads are cheaper and can last a lot longer with FNP due to the Apothecary. With three scoring units and maybe a possible 4th one with the Warlord trait, I don't think I should have a problem with claiming an objective. Anyways your tips or ideas are more than welcome!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486611/4938852.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486611/4938852.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486611/4941951.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486611/4941951.page GMT
You're spending a lot of points on command squads that can be shredded very easily with any decent dedicated CC units, you can't assault after you infiltrate unless you go second, which means you gotta sit a whole turn and get shot at before you can assault (by then a smart player will have moved out of assault range, or assaulted you to deny your Rage USR).


You're mixing heavy/rapid-fire weapons with CC weapons in your blobs when they'd be better off specializing in one aspect (which the BTs can do very well). Why not have one shooty blob and one assaulty blob?

The rest of the army looks good.

I would look into dropping one of the command squads and getting some tank-hunting dual CML termies with a ADL and quad-gun, they'll tear through just about any flier/vehicle.

I also never leave home without my adamantine mantle, it has protected my HQ countless times.

Hope this helps, have fun!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486611/4942983.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486611/4942983.page GMT CCW on neophytes, these are amazing at sitting on objectives.

my personal opinion on black templars is that they need some back bone and a staple that you have as your big hitter, for me its a land raider crusader carrying 10 sword brethren and a marshall, i also make use of dreadnoughts as well and have played a few games where i have walked through orks, nyds and eldar alike so many attacks and power armour saves give them a good advantage against hordes.

still they are out dated and are in much need of a revamp but so far i havnt lost a match yet with them.

flyers are still a problem but once you get rid of the ground forces you essentially win the game anyway so you can afford to ignore them if you have other proirities]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486611/4943898.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486611/4943898.page GMT