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				<title>2000pts Daemons/CSM W/o Flamers &amp; screamers</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yes that is right my primary force is daemons and I am not fielding a single screamer or flamer.  You might ask why they are sooo awesomez!  Because I believe I can win without them.  They are a little over the top and to over-competitive for standard tournaments which is the list I am running.  I am also a  player that refused to play with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>'s with they came out.  I like a challenge and if I run a list like that I dont think it would be that challenging to not only win a game but annihilate my opponent.  Without further delay here is my list:<br /> <br /> Total Roster Cost: 2000<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: <br />    <br />    1 Bloodthirster, 275 pts  Unholy Might + Blessings of The Blood God (WARLORD)<br /> <br />    1 Bloodthirster, 275 pts  Unholy Might + Blessings of The Blood God<br /> <br /> Elite: <br />    5 Bloodcrushers of Khorne, 210 pts Fury of Khorne<br /> <br />  Troops:<br />   5 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch, 95 pts Bolt of Tzeentch<br /> <br />    5 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch, 95 pts Bolt of Tzeentch<br /> <br />    4 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch, 100 pts : Bolt of Tzeentch<br />       1 The Changeling<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br />    Daemon Prince of Chaos, 215 pts (Daemonic Flight + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span>: Iron Hide + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span>: Unholy Might + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span>: Mark of Khorne + DGK: Blessings of The Blood God)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: <br />    Typhus 230 pts<br /> <br /> Heavy Support: <br />    3 Obliterator 237 pts  (Mark of Nurgle + Veterans of the Long War)<br /> <br /> Troops: <br /> Plague Zombies (17#, 78 pts)<br /> <br /> Plague Zombies (20#, 90 pts)<br />   <br /> Fortifications:<br /> <br />    Aegis Defense Lines, Quad Gun 100pts<br /> <br /> Total roster cost: 2000pts<br /> <br /> What do you all think of the list?  The bloodthirsters and daemon prince are the mobile threat/anti-air.  The pink horrors are anti-infantry but basically objective holders.  Typhus joins the large unit of plague zombies and walks across the field while the blood crushers start the party with 10 T5 3+/5+ wounds.  One of the zombie units will probably remain on my side behind the aegis to make use of the quad-gun and hold any objectives on my end.  I figure 4+/5++ should make them very hard to kill.  The oblits will probably post up in a ruins or behind the aegis and provide anti-tank and anti-air fire support or they could deep strike for 6 T5 2+/5++ wounds in ur face that are wielding w/e weapons needed for the job along with a powerfist.   <br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>2000pts Daemons/CSM W/o Flamers &amp; screamers</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well, its a strong list even without Flamers and Screamers.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:56:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/907384cdd6e55447221a4729cc4653f1.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486810/4942135.page"><b>wuestenfux wrote:</b></a><br/>Well, its a strong list even without Flamers and Screamers.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> As always my biggest worry here is dark eldar and maybe even guard.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Nov 2012 01:20:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tomb King]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The tournament is tomorrow I will let you all know how the list holds up...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 Nov 2012 22:48:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tomb King]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/459618507c656520c3224d3d2eebbc94.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486810/4963984.page"><b>Tomb King wrote:</b></a><br/>The tournament is tomorrow I will let you all know how the list holds up...</div></blockquote>Good luck, I'm interested in how you do against flyer-heavy lists.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 9 Nov 2012 23:17:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ undertow]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/cde8229b5620845406f5dd2160d2ebc6.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486810/4964062.page"><b>undertow wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/459618507c656520c3224d3d2eebbc94.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/486810/4963984.page"><b>Tomb King wrote:</b></a><br/>The tournament is tomorrow I will let you all know how the list holds up...</div></blockquote>Good luck, I'm interested in how you do against flyer-heavy lists.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Game 1:  Minor loss to Abbadon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>(they ruled anything can contest table quarters so I saw a hell drake and a rhino shoot onto my side on the last turn so no one got table quarters and it came to him winning 1-0 on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(140);'>vp</span> because first blood)<br /> Game 2: Massacre Win vs Space wolves/Mephiston blood angels (This was a very one sided game with a blood thirster killing mephiston on turn 2 and his stormraven not coming in until turn 4 by then I had my quad gun and the opponents quadgun to shoot it down)<br /> Game 3: major loss vs 5 night scythes with 5 warripors a piece, 3 wraiths, 3 annihilation barges, and 2 command barges.(game was closer then the score showed he mind shackled a daemon prince and typhus to death in the final 2 turns and I failed a good number of saves before he moved all of his night sycthes to my depoyment zone and disembarked for +2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(140);'>VP</span> a piece.  Game ended 15-11.<br /> <br /> Overall I was very pleased with the list even though it went 1-2 on the day I ended 5th.  I feel like the first mission I would of won had the mission been normal.  It just so happens is was  a wonky one and I didnt have the tools to bring down his 2nd helldrake in time.<br /> <br /> Plague zombies kills on the day:  2 units of wraiths, 1 unit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span>.  They killed everything they got in combat with for the most part.  I was very impressed with their performance.  In addition, the bloodthirsters and oblits both were gold.  I would have to say the weakest thing in my list was the pink horrors as I suck at making 4+ saves.   <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:58:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tomb King]]></author>
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