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				<description><![CDATA[ I saw a house covered in TP today. Whoever did it, did a fantastic job because they were madder than hell about whoever lived there. On their stoop, the offenders had spray painted "FETH YOU!" and left trash all over the yard. I stopped by to clean up just a little bit because I didn't know the situation but Idk, I'm MNice, so I did it anyway. <br /> <br /> Regardless, someone else was there, pulling off whole rolls of TP from the tree, he asked me if I lived there and I said no. He replied, "Ah, well neither do I, but I was on the way to the market and I was going to get some, so now I don't have to."<br /> <br /> I thought he was kidding, but he was serious, he had a wad of TP the size of a beach ball and wasn't even making a dent in the yard. We got to joking about what they'd do if the vandals returned - eggs were mentioned - and in good humor, he said he'd come back for them too. So even if the second one was a joke, though I'm still not sure if it was - he sounded hopeful, he was serious about the first, because as I was leaving, he didn't throw away his collection of dirt stained TP, he started stuffing it into his bag like a gleeful elf from the North Pole.<br /> <br />  I laughed to myself the rest of the way home, but it got me wondering, when does being frugal just become being cheap?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ When you shop at the goodwill when you can afford other nicer places for clothes and electronics. <br /> When you make you kids share a cookie and a glass of milk. <br /> Quite Frankly, it when you can afford to do something with no consequence to your budget, but dont. Like if you can afford a nice sit down place, but you go to Mcdonalds.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ When you're broke there's no such thing as "too frugal"]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ When it starts to affect other people. Nothing wrong with trying to spend your money efficiently.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> be concerned with the pre-stained TP, sanitary issues and all.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:43:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d904e524a6dbd1f94f54cb73c72b39a8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4979472.page"><b>hotsauceman1 wrote:</b></a><br/>When you shop at the goodwill when you can afford other nicer places for clothes and electronics.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Why buy 5 shirts when I can get 10 for the same price?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:46:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4979537.page"><b>Mattman154 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d904e524a6dbd1f94f54cb73c72b39a8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4979472.page"><b>hotsauceman1 wrote:</b></a><br/>When you shop at the goodwill when you can afford other nicer places for clothes and electronics.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Why buy 5 shirts when I can get 10 for the same price?<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Exactly.<br /> <br /> If you have money, you should spend it wisely. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e76c84d9b0d3a7c26b37af4a5b9b66e3.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4979571.page"><b>Mr. Burning wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4979537.page"><b>Mattman154 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d904e524a6dbd1f94f54cb73c72b39a8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4979472.page"><b>hotsauceman1 wrote:</b></a><br/>When you shop at the goodwill when you can afford other nicer places for clothes and electronics.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Why buy 5 shirts when I can get 10 for the same price?<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Exactly.<br /> <br /> If you have money, you should spend it wisely. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Indeed, A lot of my friends and even my girlfriend have this "I have money so I must spend it" mentality]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:57:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4979595.page"><b>Mattman154 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e76c84d9b0d3a7c26b37af4a5b9b66e3.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4979571.page"><b>Mr. Burning wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4979537.page"><b>Mattman154 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d904e524a6dbd1f94f54cb73c72b39a8.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4979472.page"><b>hotsauceman1 wrote:</b></a><br/>When you shop at the goodwill when you can afford other nicer places for clothes and electronics.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Why buy 5 shirts when I can get 10 for the same price?<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Exactly.<br /> <br /> If you have money, you should spend it wisely. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Indeed, A lot of my friends and even my girlfriend have this "I have money so I must spend it" mentality</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> burning holes in pockets]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:58:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/01e5818fd579bde203aea97a328170e7.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4979451.page"><b>ENOZONE wrote:</b></a><br/>when does being frugal just become being cheap?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> When your clothes line looks like this:<br /> ---Boxers---Shirt---Shirt---Jeans---Used Teabag---T-shirt---Socks---]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't know, but I consider myself cheap I'm not really into many of those trendy brands that you always see hip kids wear and I occasionally buy second hand clothes although I'm willing to pay a little extra if it's something I really want and can't find it anywhere else.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would guess it becomes an issue when you cross the lines of sanitation... nothing wrong with shopping at Goodwill, especially for nice clothes that are insane prices elsewhere.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think it goes past being frugal when the effort involved makes no sense compared to the amount saved.<br /> <br /> So, for instance, my wife loves finding out where petrol is cheapest and going there when she needs to fill up.  Nothing wrong with that, a ten cent saving can save about $5.  But that's only if she's filling an empty tank, sometimes she's topping the tank up because she expects to do a lot of driving in the next few days, so if she's only getting a fifth of a tank or even less then at best she's saving about a dollar.  Driving ten minutes out of your way to save a dollar is way past frugal and into cheap, so much so if you factor in the extra driving time she's probably spending more than she's saving.<br /> <br /> That's where it crosses the line, to me, when the brain switches off about how much you're actually saving and whether that's really worth the effort.<br /> <br /> That toilet paper one is a good example.  You can get a roll of cheap toilet paper for like 20c, if you buy in bulk.  Picking up unrolled toilet paper you'll maybe get half a roll.  And then you'd have to sit there folding it back onto the roll.  Is that really worth 20c?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:54:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/72eab7a7ce61b7d7e07cfd696c3e9130.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4981697.page"><b>sebster wrote:</b></a><br/>I think it goes past being frugal when the effort involved makes no sense compared to the amount saved.<br /> <br /> So, for instance, my wife loves finding out where petrol is cheapest and going there when she needs to fill up.  Nothing wrong with that, a ten cent saving can save about $5.  But that's only if she's filling an empty tank, sometimes she's topping the tank up because she expects to do a lot of driving in the next few days, so if she's only getting a fifth of a tank or even less then at best she's saving about a dollar.  Driving ten minutes out of your way to save a dollar is way past frugal and into cheap, so much so if you factor in the extra driving time she's probably spending more than she's saving.<br /> <br /> That's where it crosses the line, to me, when the brain switches off about how much you're actually saving and whether that's really worth the effort.<br /> <br /> That toilet paper one is a good example.  You can get a roll of cheap toilet paper for like 20c, if you buy in bulk.  Picking up unrolled toilet paper you'll maybe get half a roll.  And then you'd have to sit there folding it back onto the roll.  Is that really worth 20c?</div></blockquote><br /> Uh... <b><i>unrolled </i></b>toilet paper?  Say what?!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I doubt people are lazy enough to throw sealed packages of toilet paper at houses. If they are they're probably doing it wrong.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/72eab7a7ce61b7d7e07cfd696c3e9130.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488962/4981697.page"><b>sebster wrote:</b></a><br/>I think it goes past being frugal when the effort involved makes no sense compared to the amount saved.<br /> <br /> So, for instance, my wife loves finding out where petrol is cheapest and going there when she needs to fill up. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I have the same situation. My wife is acutely aware of who has the cheapest gas, whereas I just stop at whatever is the most convenient and rarely pay attention at all to gas prices unless it's obviously some outlandish figure. <br /> <br /> Going back to the first point you raised:<br /> <br /> A month or so ago, my Skullcandy headphones started doing that garbage where they started only working on one side if you wiggled it. I was going to get a replacement pair, but I thought about it. I like Skullcandy headphones for their styling, but their build quality is awful. I've owned 3 - 2 I bought and one that was a freebie with one of the paid for ones - and every single one broke fairly quickly in some way. I decided I'm not buying from them anymore, and moreso, I can fix this. I'm capable of soldering on a new jack, right? I already own a soldering gun FFS,<i> I'm going to save $30. </i><br /> <br /> I ordered a set of 4 replacement headphone plugs from China on ebay for $6. I then waited for them to arrive, about 2 weeks ($6). I try soldering them on, no go. The wires inside are, like, freaking <b>invulnerable</b> to solder. I presumed they were probably coated with nylon or something, but nothing, I mean nothing, made the solder stick to these strands. I tried burning it off. I tried scraping. No success. The best I could get was it sort of working but flaky on one side; i.e. the original status. <br /> <br /> I ordered some flux on Amazon ($6) and some more solder since I was running low ($6). Tried again. Same nonsense. I had them pretty much working, but the wires were super exposed, so I tried adding some superglue to insulate them, then screwed the jack back together. That messed it up anew.<br /> <br /> At this point I've wasted 3 weeks of waiting, 2 hours of actual effort, and $18 to salvage a freaking pair of $30 headphones. All I have to show for my effort is a shiny, garish gold plug on the end and they only play on both sides if you wiggle the cable. <br /> <br /> Why the hell didn't I just work a tiny bit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(415);'>OT</span>? I worked 60 hours this week, I wouldn't even have noticed it, FFS. <br /> <br /> Yesterday I ordered some Grado headphones. They were the most expensive headphones I've ever bought - $100; and I'm not an audiophile by any definiton - but I suspect they won't break after 6 months. This make sense due to the theory of boots. <br /> ]]></description>
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