http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net FOC is because I haven't got the Mortis-pattern Contemptor Dreadnought I need for my original list, and I really need the anti-air.
I have a tournament coming up and wanna hear what everybody thinks of this:

HEADQUARTERS:

Marshal, TDA, TH/SS, Adamantine Mantle, 185pts
Reclusiarch, TDA, storm-bolter, 125pts
Emperor's Champion, AACNMTO, 140pts

ELITES:

5 Terminators, 2 assault-cannons, tank-hunters, 255pts
Aegis Defence Line, quad gun, 100pts

5 Terminators, 2 cyclone missile launcher, tank-hunters, 265pts
Aegis Defence Line, quad gun, 100pts

7 Assault terminators, 4 TH/SS, 3 LCs, furious charge, 301pts

TROOPS:

5 Initiates, lascannon, bolters, 95pts

5 Initiates, lascannon, bolters, 95pts

5 Initiates, plasma cannon, bolters, 100pts

10 Initiates, 4 neophytes, power fist, meltagun, CCW/BP, frags, 239pts

That's 2001pts, if anyone gives me crap I can drop the plasmagun and add bionics to one of my hqs to make it 2000pts on the dot.
I tabled my buddy's Abbadon/chosen list with it (not the most competitve, he had a single storm-eagle that got popped upon entry).

The assault-termies are there as a distraction as they run forward to go chop some wood (they eventually killed Abbadon and a squad of 5 slaneesh LC termies, even though it took 4 turns, guy's a beast).
The termies are there to take out fliers (tank-hunting quad guns are just awesome), if there aren't any I'll push the assault cannons forward to go shred stuff.
The EC will tag along with the CC blob for MEC shreddage and objective grabbing.
The other 3 Initiate squads will objective-sit, behind the ADL, alternatively they can run forward for mid-field objectives; not ideal, and this is I think the main weakness: lack of mobility...

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I also might swap one lascannon for a ML for more anti-horde capability, I've never faced a horde list and I'm worried I may be ill-equipped to handle them (getting the charge will be critical).


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That said as far as 6th ed and BTs are concerned, the main thing I've realized is that you can't go all shootty or all assaulty like we used to.

While the shootty list definitely has an edge, you gotta keep at least one solid CC threat to deal with other dedicated CC units (thinking wraiths and such...) and to tie other key units up.

Tank hunting termies with dual heavy weapons are just as good as they used to be, if not better.

The EC is awesome at challenging MEC sergeants where you can kill them before their PW can do any damage. Also the fact that we don't have sergeants of our own helps in CC to keep that PF or PW alive (watch out during the shooting phase though since we can't LOS)

Hope this helps.

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It will provide the anti-horde I need while also helping against other termie lists and light armor.

Any input?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489062/4995352.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489062/4995352.page GMT ML next to the agis defence line. I would use the laz crusader squad. Terminators can hold there own weight out in the open, and even in assault if need be. On the flip side, if your worride about some one assaulting your defense line, then they should charge out to meet them.

Solid list tho... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489062/4995414.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489062/4995414.page GMT
If there are no fliers/vehicles the termies will move forward in support of the assault squads.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489062/4995572.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489062/4995572.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489062/4995586.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489062/4995586.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489062/4995709.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489062/4995709.page GMT