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				<description><![CDATA[ So I intend to make up a fully fluff-accurate Imperial Fists army for the new Horus Heresy series. Following are some questions that I am either not 100% sure on, or unclear completely. I ask that any answers be sure (no 'well they probably just X or Y, idk' stuff) and if at all possible, have sources; that would just be amazing.<br /> <br /> -What were armor-markings like in the Heresy/Crusade? (Shoulder pads, knee pads, etc)<br /> <br /> -What color-shifts were used to provide distinctions of rank? (Sergeant/Captain/Grunt colors?)<br /> <br /> -What markings, if any, differentiated specialized (heavy weapon, special weapon, destroyer) squads from bolter-brothers?<br /> <br /> -What special weapons did the Legion favor? (Melta, Graviton Gun, Flamer, Volkite???)<br /> <br /> -Heavy weapons? (Autocannon, Multimelta, Lascannon, Rocket Launcher, Heavy Bolter???)<br /> <br /> -Melee weapons? (Thunder Hammer, Power Sword, Power Maul, Paragon Blade, Power fist???)<br /> <br /> -What foot-units did they use often? (Assault, Tactical, Breacher squads, Termies, Destroyer Squads, Special Weapon Squads, Heavy Weapon Squads, Scout squads, Seeker squads???)<br /> <br /> -Did they make use of Apothecaries much???<br /> <br /> -Bikes? Jetbikes?<br /> <br /> -And finally, what marks of armor did they use prominently? Terminator Armor?<br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks so much guys for all your help in clearing this stuff up for me. Once I get these questions answered, and tack it onto my additional research, I'll be able to (excitingly) get started on this awesome project.<br /> <br /> Cheers!<br /> -TheCaptain]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/8ae2c33a312740bc3e9a68dedf0d0d6d.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489993/4996809.page"><b>TheCaptain wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <br /> -What were armor-markings like in the Heresy/Crusade? (Shoulder pads, knee pads, etc)<br /> <br /> -What color-shifts were used to provide distinctions of rank? (Sergeant/Captain/Grunt colors?)<br /> <br /> -What markings, if any, differentiated specialized (heavy weapon, special weapon, destroyer) squads from bolter-brothers?<br /> <br /> -What special weapons did the Legion favor? (Melta, Graviton Gun, Flamer, Volkite???)<br /> <br /> -Heavy weapons? (Autocannon, Multimelta, Lascannon, Rocket Launcher, Heavy Bolter???)<br /> <br /> -Melee weapons? (Thunder Hammer, Power Sword, Power Maul, Paragon Blade, Power fist???)<br /> <br /> -What foot-units did they use often? (Assault, Tactical, Breacher squads, Termies, Destroyer Squads, Special Weapon Squads, Heavy Weapon Squads, Scout squads, Seeker squads???)<br /> <br /> -Did they make use of Apothecaries much???<br /> <br /> -Bikes? Jetbikes?<br /> <br /> -And finally, what marks of armor did they use prominently? Terminator Armor?<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> My fluff is a little rusty as far as the differences between Heresy and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> era Space Marines, but this is what I know:<br /> <br /> - I'm not 100% on marks. I know they always had those studded shoulder pads as well as a pad with their Legion symbol on the left shoulder. <br /> <br /> - I don't think there were color markings. That was something established in the Codex Astartes. The Sergeants did used to have Roman-style head crests.<br /> <br /> - Don't think they really had any.<br /> <br /> - There wasn't really much difference between Special Weapons. They had flamers, meltas, plasmas; the works.<br /> <br /> - Same with Heavy Weapons. I don't think they had Assault Cannons, though.<br /> <br /> - Melee weapons are the same as normal. <br /> <br /> - All of the above. The unit composition was a bit different though. You might see more special weapons in a squad and such.<br /> <br /> - Yes, they did. <br /> <br /> - Both. Jetbikes were more prominent during the Heresy, though. <br /> <br /> - Marks 1-6 Power Armor. The Terminators used Cataphractii pattern Terminator armor. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:32:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Anything a lil more definite/up to date with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span>'s depiction of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span>, anyone?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:11:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/8ae2c33a312740bc3e9a68dedf0d0d6d.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489993/4996809.page"><b>TheCaptain wrote:</b></a><br/>So I intend to make up a fully fluff-accurate Imperial Fists army for the new Horus Heresy series. Following are some questions that I am either not 100% sure on, or unclear completely. I ask that any answers be sure (no 'well they probably just X or Y, idk' stuff) and if at all possible, have sources; that would just be amazing.<br /> <br /> -What were armor-markings like in the Heresy/Crusade? (Shoulder pads, knee pads, etc)<br /> <br /> -What color-shifts were used to provide distinctions of rank? (Sergeant/Captain/Grunt colors?)<br /> <br /> -What markings, if any, differentiated specialized (heavy weapon, special weapon, destroyer) squads from bolter-brothers?<br /> <br /> -What special weapons did the Legion favor? (Melta, Graviton Gun, Flamer, Volkite???)<br /> <br /> -Heavy weapons? (Autocannon, Multimelta, Lascannon, Rocket Launcher, Heavy Bolter???)<br /> <br /> -Melee weapons? (Thunder Hammer, Power Sword, Power Maul, Paragon Blade, Power fist???)<br /> <br /> -What foot-units did they use often? (Assault, Tactical, Breacher squads, Termies, Destroyer Squads, Special Weapon Squads, Heavy Weapon Squads, Scout squads, Seeker squads???)<br /> <br /> -Did they make use of Apothecaries much???<br /> <br /> -Bikes? Jetbikes?<br /> <br /> -And finally, what marks of armor did they use prominently? Terminator Armor?<br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks so much guys for all your help in clearing this stuff up for me. Once I get these questions answered, and tack it onto my additional research, I'll be able to (excitingly) get started on this awesome project.<br /> <br /> Cheers!<br /> -TheCaptain</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> book 1 answers all these questions and more, I suggest you pick that up if you're interested. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489993/4997424.page"><b>Indarys wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/8ae2c33a312740bc3e9a68dedf0d0d6d.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489993/4996809.page"><b>TheCaptain wrote:</b></a><br/>So I intend to make up a fully fluff-accurate Imperial Fists army for the new Horus Heresy series. Following are some questions that I am either not 100% sure on, or unclear completely. I ask that any answers be sure (no 'well they probably just X or Y, idk' stuff) and if at all possible, have sources; that would just be amazing.<br /> <br /> -What were armor-markings like in the Heresy/Crusade? (Shoulder pads, knee pads, etc)<br /> <br /> -What color-shifts were used to provide distinctions of rank? (Sergeant/Captain/Grunt colors?)<br /> <br /> -What markings, if any, differentiated specialized (heavy weapon, special weapon, destroyer) squads from bolter-brothers?<br /> <br /> -What special weapons did the Legion favor? (Melta, Graviton Gun, Flamer, Volkite???)<br /> <br /> -Heavy weapons? (Autocannon, Multimelta, Lascannon, Rocket Launcher, Heavy Bolter???)<br /> <br /> -Melee weapons? (Thunder Hammer, Power Sword, Power Maul, Paragon Blade, Power fist???)<br /> <br /> -What foot-units did they use often? (Assault, Tactical, Breacher squads, Termies, Destroyer Squads, Special Weapon Squads, Heavy Weapon Squads, Scout squads, Seeker squads???)<br /> <br /> -Did they make use of Apothecaries much???<br /> <br /> -Bikes? Jetbikes?<br /> <br /> -And finally, what marks of armor did they use prominently? Terminator Armor?<br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks so much guys for all your help in clearing this stuff up for me. Once I get these questions answered, and tack it onto my additional research, I'll be able to (excitingly) get started on this awesome project.<br /> <br /> Cheers!<br /> -TheCaptain</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> book 1 answers all these questions and more, I suggest you pick that up if you're interested. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I have it, and it does virtually nothing to answer it specific to the Imperial Fist Legion.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How would Horus Rising answer all those questions? They were in the book for literally no more than a few pages.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489993/4997867.page"><b>BlaxicanX wrote:</b></a><br/>How would Horus Rising answer all those questions? They were in the book for literally no more than a few pages.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Oh, I thought he was referring to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span>: Betrayal. Either way, I have both, and they don't help me.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/8ae2c33a312740bc3e9a68dedf0d0d6d.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489993/4999594.page"><b>TheCaptain wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489993/4997867.page"><b>BlaxicanX wrote:</b></a><br/>How would Horus Rising answer all those questions? They were in the book for literally no more than a few pages.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Oh, I thought he was referring to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span>: Betrayal. Either way, I have both, and they don't help me.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> He most likely was...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He was referring to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span>: Betrayal.<br /> Unfortunately, you're going to have to wait for the specific <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> book to be released that contains IF information. It'll be a long way off.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/8ae2c33a312740bc3e9a68dedf0d0d6d.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489993/4997309.page"><b>TheCaptain wrote:</b></a><br/>Anything a lil more definite/up to date with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span>'s depiction of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span>, anyone?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> There's nothing really more specific than what Darth Bob says, not at least until they're covered in further depth by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(327);'>BL</span> or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span>. So yeah, that's really about as specific as it gets for the Fists <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>.<br /> <br /> Personally, I'd recommend following what's been presented under the direction of a siege specialist/defense specialist army, so flamers and meltas over plasma guns for example...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Read  Crimson Fist, the short story in <u>Shadows of Treachery</u>.  Its the latest <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> short story book.   Its one of the longer stories in the book and its not that bad of a read and it is only about Imperial Fists.  There is actually a few good short stories, especially the last one about the Night Lords.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/489993/5004672.page"><b>specia_k_squared wrote:</b></a><br/>Read  Crimson Fist, the short story in <u>Shadows of Treachery</u>.  Its the latest <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> short story book.   Its one of the longer stories in the book and its not that bad of a read and it is only about Imperial Fists.  There is actually a few good short stories, especially the last one about the Night Lords.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Just bought it. Reading it won't spoil the rest of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> series will it? I'm just finishing book one.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No, you'll be fine. Save Prince of Crows until you've read The Primarchs and Savage Weapons (which I think is in Age of Darkness <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span>).]]></description>
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