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I've just received the Black Templar Venerable Dreadnought from FW. I absolutely love the model, I will paint and definitely play it in fluff armies but otherwise can I find a spot for him in a competitive list?

2 ideas I was thinking:

-Venerable, with tank hunter, TLLC and ML
-Chaplain dreadnought, dual DCCW, HF, Lucius Drop-Pod

What do you guys think? Has anyone used them successfully?

P.S. I'm also working on getting my hands on a Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought.


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]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5014249.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5014249.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5015040.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5015040.page GMT BT dread, only options are:

Right arm: Assault Cannon, TLLC, or MM

Left arm: DCCW (storm bolter or HF), ML (not TL)

May be upgraded to Venerable (+ tank hunter or furious charge USR).

The Chaplain dread has just about every option possible (including flamestorm cannon), but costs a bit more.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5015115.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5015115.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5016585.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5016585.page GMT TLLC and a Missile Launcher in my Black Templars. He performs pretty well, though he's expensive, somewhat vulnerable to incoming fire, and no good in a melee. I also run a Predator Annihilator with lascannon sponsons, which I think I prefer, at the end of the day. I don't play my Templars much anymore, however, and I don't think they've been out of their case since 5e.

Where can I find rules for the Black Templars Chaplain Dreadnought?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5016605.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5016605.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5016613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5016613.page GMT
The Chaplain Dreadnought is in Imperial Armour Apocalypse 2 (not second edition, the one before that). It has a specific model from FW but with all the bling on the BT Ven dread from FW I think it fits well as a Chaplain dread.

Gets venerable stats and all kinds of weapon options and it can re-roll to hit in CC.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5016619.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/491013/5016619.page GMT