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				<description><![CDATA[ I've always wanted to run a dreadknight in my list so I said screw it and I think I'll try it out. Any input is appreciated.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> OM <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>Inq</span> with psycannon and psyker level 1 (divination) 110pts<br /> Elites<br /> Paladins (5) with 2 psycannons, 4 halberds, 1 hammer 315 points<br /> Troops<br /> Strike Squad (8) with psycannon 170pts<br /> Strike Squad (8) with psycannon 170pts<br /> Heavy<br /> Dreadknight with PT and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(604);'>HI</span> 235pts<br /> Total 1000<br /> <br /> The plan is to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> one strike squad while the other babysits an objective. The inquisitor takes prescience and goes with the paladins. The dreadknight is just there to look really mean and hit hordes or objective campers.<br /> <br /> My regular opponents are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> chimera spam, vanilla <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>, chaos <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>, and necron warrior spam. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Bump. I could use some feedback ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ For 1k, with 25% of your points invested in a dreadknight, I would not take the paladins, max out the strikes, 2 psycannons, then maybe another squad, needs more scoring bodies <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I also agree that you need more scoring units.  Against this list, you just need to kill 16 marines and you win on objectives usually.<br /> <br /> <br /> Is there any way you can shave points and trade the inquisitor for Grand master?  Making the Paladin or the Knights scoring with Grand Strategy would also work.<br /> <br /> <br /> Otherwise, I would downgrade the Paladins to regular terminators to make them scoring, maybe use the points saved to make your strike squads 10 man units.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Others have addressed your unit count which I also would have. But personally, I don't like the point investment in the Inquisitor. I think his major advantage is his cheapness. If you stripped him of utility, you could have enough points to fill out your Strike Squad and provide them with the Psycannon if that's what you really want. Otherwise, bite the bullet and get a Librarian if you want a decent psyker. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thank you all for the replies! I've taken your advice into account and altered my list. <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <br /> Ordo Malleus <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>inq</span> with psycannon and psyker 1 (divination) 110pts<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> Terminator squad (5) with psycannon 225pts<br /> Strike squad (10) with 2 psycannons 220pts<br /> Strike squad (10) with 1 psycannon 210pts<br /> <br /> Heavy<br /> Dreadknight with Heavy Incinerator and Personal Teleporter 235pts<br /> <br /> 1000]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:30:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:GK 1000 pts with a dreadknight. Critiques wanted.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492191/5036429.page"><b>Cieged wrote:</b></a><br/>Others have addressed your unit count which I also would have. But personally, I don't like the point investment in the Inquisitor. I think his major advantage is his cheapness. If you stripped him of utility, you could have enough points to fill out your Strike Squad and provide them with the Psycannon if that's what you really want. Otherwise, bite the bullet and get a Librarian if you want a decent psyker. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> The inquisitor is a great value and a great psyker.<br /> <br /> 110 points gives you <br /> a Relentless psycannon (always 4 shots over the 2/4 shots from a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(523);'>GKSS</span> psycannon)<br /> 3 wounds (better protection against perils of the warp than the librarian)<br /> Re-roll to hit on himself and a unit (what other spells do you really need or what other spells are you consistently going to get that you want?)<br /> with a 2+ save, a Thunder-Force Hammer, 3 attacks, you may find that he is surprisingly good in challenges. (Anything without an AP2 weapon will struggle against this guy.)<br /> <br /> <br /> If you REALLY want a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>LVL</span> 2 psyker, then coteaz is a great value.  100 pts for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>LVL</span> 2 is insanely cheap, plus you get a lot of other special rules as well.<br /> <br /> <br /> The Librarian is best if you are going for a true deathstar.  If that is the case you will need Shrouding to mitigate damage in the shooting phase, and Quicksilver so you can forgo Halberds for Swords for more durability in the Assault Phase.  Might of Titan and Sanctuary are just the gravy on top for a Librarian.<br /> If you are going for Divination spells, then a psycannon inquisitor is just a better value.<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I feel that the MASSIVE nerf that 6th edition gave to psychic hoods makes the librarian less mandatory than it was in 5th edition.  <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I agree. Every time I've used this <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>inq</span> build he has always made his points back. Two (basically) twin linked, relentless psycannons can put quite a dent in many things while my opponents main concern will be my dreadknight.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:27:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ae42277e44694a525561503d1170c5e5.jpeg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492191/5036592.page"><b>korghan wrote:</b></a><br/>Thank you all for the replies! I've taken your advice into account and altered my list. <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <br /> Ordo Malleus <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>inq</span> with psycannon and psyker 1 (divination) 110pts<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> Terminator squad (5) with psycannon 225pts<br /> Strike squad (10) with 2 psycannons 220pts<br /> Strike squad (10) with 1 psycannon 210pts<br /> <br /> Heavy<br /> Dreadknight with Heavy Incinerator and Personal Teleporter 235pts<br /> <br /> 1000</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You are running a 5 man terminator squad and leaving them all with force swords?   Why when the hammer or halberd is free...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Im guessing becasue they are free he has not included them in the list and will decide apon the day.<br /> <br /> I would put a sword on the justicar, then 3 halberd and 1 hammer for the others.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Dec 2012 23:46:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was planning on running 4 halberds and 1 hammer. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Dec 2012 05:17:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sword is actually better for the justicar, becasue if you challenge, you will likely be up against thunderhammers, powerfists, powerclaws etc. With the sword, you will still be stiking first, so can kill them. But if you dont you can fall back on a 4+ invun, not 5+. Better to take than the halberd, which should be saved for the normal guys and the hammer <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Dec 2012 08:03:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tuiman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9ac9c78516a14cf3681fc9bfd0211706.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492191/5038942.page"><b>tuiman wrote:</b></a><br/>Sword is actually better for the justicar, becasue if you challenge, you will likely be up against thunderhammers, powerfists, powerclaws etc. With the sword, you will still be stiking first, so can kill them. But if you dont you can fall back on a 4+ invun, not 5+. Better to take than the halberd, which should be saved for the normal guys and the hammer <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What this guy said. Your dreadknight will also be well worth the points and if you really really need more scoring units you can always combat squad the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(523);'>GKSS</span> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Great tip. I guess I never thought about challenges. The highest initiative I normally face is 4 so it will work out great! I'm glad to hear that the dreadknight will be a good buy. I love the idea of shunting into cover, dropping a template on a squad and possibly charging the next turn. If nothing else I figured it would draw attention away from the rest of my army.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They are a massive distraction.  You tell your opponent what they are equipped with and what they do and thier mind implodes.  You start seeing them make terrible mistakes to take it down while your main force is free to cap objectives and what-not.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 3 Dec 2012 18:49:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Goat]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've had a lot of success at just under 1,000 pts with the list below.  <br /> 	<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Coteaz		<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> Vindicare assassin	<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> - Psycannon, 2 Halderds, Hammer, Psybolt ammo	<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> - Psycannon, 2 Halderds, Hammer, Psybolt ammo	<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> - Psycannon, 2 Halderds, Hammer, Psybolt ammo		<br /> Warrior acolytes (8)<br /> <br /> Fortifications	<br /> Aegis defence line		<br /> <br /> Heavy support<br /> Nemesis Dreadknight - Hammer, Heavy incinerator<br /> <br /> <br /> A decent number of troops, Coteaz can sit on the quad gun with the acolytes or support one of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> squads, whilst the Dreadknight and Vindicare cause enough trouble to draw 	fire from the troops. Plus you can easily swap either out (or the defence line) if you want more feet on the ground. <br /> <br /> NW4NW	 	 	 	<br /> 	<br />  ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ NoWill4NoWay]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would drop the hammer on the knight, sword or dual fists is much better <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>. <br /> <br /> Psybolt is not really worth it on 5 man squads as you pay a premium for it. My standard build is 2 psycannon, hammer, 6 swords, justicar with halberd and psybolt. Its 255 but you can combat squad if needed. This way psybolt is only 2 points per model, not 5 with the smaller squads. Just something to think about <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ tuiman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks, I can actually remove a load of upgrades (the hammer on the dreadknight, halberds etc) and have this well rounded list.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Inquisitor Coteaz<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> Vindicare assassin		<br /> <br /> Troops	<br /> Grey Knights - (10) - 2 Psycannons, Hammer,Psybolt ammo<br /> Grey Knights - (10) - 2 Psycannons, Hammer,Psybolt ammo		<br /> Warrior acolytes - (4)<br /> <br /> Fortifications	<br /> Aegis defence line with quad cannon	<br /> <br /> Heavy support<br /> Nemesis Dreadknight - Heavy incinerator<br /> <br /> Thanks, <br /> <br /> NW4NW]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ One more quick question. Should I keep the hammer on the inquisitor or opt for the sword?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ at 1k I would do something unpredictable like 2 dreadknights, draigo, a squad of 2 palies and a solo palie. with grand strategy you'll most likely be able to make both dreadknights troops, then you can choose to put draigo with the 2 palies and have the one be a rear objective holder or put him with the solo palie and maybe have them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>.  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ flaming tadpole]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ae42277e44694a525561503d1170c5e5.jpeg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492191/5045471.page"><b>korghan wrote:</b></a><br/>One more quick question. Should I keep the hammer on the inquisitor or opt for the sword?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Force hammer is very very powerful.  I would keep it. Your INT is not very high and you need the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>STR</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> of the weapon.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492191/5045947.page"><b>flaming tadpole wrote:</b></a><br/>at 1k I would do something unpredictable like 2 dreadknights, draigo, a squad of 2 palies and a solo palie. with grand strategy you'll most likely be able to make both dreadknights troops, then you can choose to put draigo with the 2 palies and have the one be a rear objective holder or put him with the solo palie and maybe have them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>.  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> While that is an Awsome idea....... it is not really a good idea.<br /> <br /> Save it for a fun game with a new player or a narrative campaign, not for a competitive list.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yea I'm thinking a hammer is probably my best bet. As far as the two dreadknight list I'll likely get another one when I work up to 1250 but for now I think 1 will serve me just fine. I greatly appreciate all of the input. I'm going to be heading to the shop on thursday to grab the dreadknight and try to get it painted up as soon as I can. I'll let you know how the list fares! thanks again!]]></description>
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