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Farseer:
- Fortune
- Runes of Warding
- Runes of Witnessing
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HQ: 265

Harlequins
- 4x Harlies w/Kiss
- 2x Harlies w/Kiss/Fusion Pistol
- Shadowseer w/Kiss
- Troupe Master w/Kiss
- Death Jester

Elites: 270

Dire Avengers x 10
Guardians x 18 w/Warlock (conceal) and EML
Wraithguard x10 w/Warlock (Spiritseer/Singing Spear/enhance)

Troops: 720

Wraithlord (2x Flamers/EML/Wraithsword)
Wraithlord (2x Flamers/Starcannon)

Heavy Support: 245
Total: 1500]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5043063.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5043063.page GMT 1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome!
I'd drop the Avengers, the Death Jester, and possibly the fusion pistol to squeeze in extra points. Fusion pistols don't seem to get a lot of use in my experience, maybe taking out the odd model if you're lucky, but that's 10 points you can use elsewhere. A stock Harlie with kiss is going to be more effective than a Jester.

Now that transports are like tissue paper, DAVU has lost some of it's bite. Foot Avengers are going to be eaten by longer range fire. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5043117.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5043117.page GMT 1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5043118.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5043118.page GMT 1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5043845.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5043845.page GMT Re:1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome!
This is has come up in discussion in my local meta. The general consensus (echoed here on Dakka as well) is that Seer Councils cannot join other units, thus a Conceal 'lock can't attach to the harlies for a 2++.

Is your local playing it differently? If so, what's the justification? I'd love to bring it up at my club. Right now, we're looking at:

A) Warlock's don't have the IC rule.
B) Where Warlocks can attach to units, those units are specified in the codex (Farseer has an entry, Guardians have an entry, Wraithguard have an entry).

I'd be interested in your thoughts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5044351.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5044351.page GMT 1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome! Ld isn't worth the points. Also, try ditching the star cannon for a scatter laser & sword.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5045513.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5045513.page GMT 1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome! atm. Dire avengers are really weak]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5045588.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5045588.page GMT 1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome! CC unit. With those points I would upgrade to Eldrad and add the 3rd wraithlord. You are way light on anti-tank. I would go brightlance on the wraithlords and perhaps an EML. But if you like the wraithsword stick with that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5045621.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5045621.page GMT Re:1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5045700.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5045700.page GMT 1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome!
With the wraithguard gone, you won't need the harlequins to counter assault since most squads that get assaulted will just die anyway (like the Avengers and guardians). Taking them out will also free up a lot of points for some extra units and upgrades like Eldrad.

I always use warwalkers in a list like this. Besides the wraithlord flamers, you really have no anti horde weapons and a warwalker squad with scatter lasers can hold off marines, light armored tanks, and horde armies all at the same time. There's nothing better than watching a squad of guided warwalkers shred your opponents squads!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5045738.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5045738.page GMT Re:1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome!
tristym wrote:
@Gavin:

This is has come up in discussion in my local meta. The general consensus (echoed here on Dakka as well) is that Seer Councils cannot join other units, thus a Conceal 'lock can't attach to the harlies for a 2++.

Is your local playing it differently? If so, what's the justification? I'd love to bring it up at my club. Right now, we're looking at:

A) Warlock's don't have the IC rule.
B) Where Warlocks can attach to units, those units are specified in the codex (Farseer has an entry, Guardians have an entry, Wraithguard have an entry).

I'd be interested in your thoughts.


Not sure what you're asking as I didn't imply that a warlock would join the harlies. What I was proposing is attaching a Farseer and Eldrad to a unit that can take a Warlock as a unit upgrade - like the Guardians or Wraithguard in the OP's list. With the Spiritseer upgrade, the 'guard become a troops unit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5046176.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5046176.page GMT Re:1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome!
 Gavin Thorne wrote:
tristym wrote:
@Gavin:

This is has come up in discussion in my local meta. The general consensus (echoed here on Dakka as well) is that Seer Councils cannot join other units, thus a Conceal 'lock can't attach to the harlies for a 2++.

Is your local playing it differently? If so, what's the justification? I'd love to bring it up at my club. Right now, we're looking at:

A) Warlock's don't have the IC rule.
B) Where Warlocks can attach to units, those units are specified in the codex (Farseer has an entry, Guardians have an entry, Wraithguard have an entry).

I'd be interested in your thoughts.


Not sure what you're asking as I didn't imply that a warlock would join the harlies. What I was proposing is attaching a Farseer and Eldrad to a unit that can take a Warlock as a unit upgrade - like the Guardians or Wraithguard in the OP's list. With the Spiritseer upgrade, the 'guard become a troops unit.


@Gavin:

I thought you were suggesting 2++ saves for harlies with a Conceal Warlock, a save which my folks decided wasn't possible without some other form of cover. My mistake.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5046899.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5046899.page GMT 1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome!
I love the wraithlord as a model and concept but I whenever I use them in reasonable sized games they tend to die really quickly as they attract shooting like nothing else and don't have an invulnerable save. They're also really vulnerable to things like DE poison weapons which make their toughness 8 irrelevant. I'd take walkers instead cos you can get the same guns for half the points cost.

Other than that good luck and enjoy!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5046962.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492653/5046962.page GMT Re:1500 Eldar List, Comments/Critics/Haters Welcome! eldar jetbikes with shuriken cannons
autarch on jetbike
guardians
wave serpent
avatar of khaine
warwalkers
fire prism
and support weapons d-cannons
and harlequins i don't like that
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