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HQ:
Vulkan
Librarian in TDA, stormshield (Avenger, Null Zone)

Troop:
10 Scouts, all snipers
10 Scouts, all snipers
Tac Squad in Drop pod, Multi Melta, Flamer, Combi Melta

Elite:

Dreadnought, Multi Melta, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod
Dreadnought, Multi Melta, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod
5x Assault Terminators, TH/SS
Redeemer Transport, Multi Melta

Fast:
Land Speeder, Heavy Flamer, Multi Melta
Land Speeder, Heavy Flamer, Multi Melta
Land Speeder, Heavy Flamer, Multi Melta

Heavy:
Vindicator

Fortification:
Aegis Defense Line/Quad Gun


So basically everything seems to gell pretty well together except for the fact that the vindicator tends to do more damage to my own troops than the enemies due to the proximity of the pods. I'm thinking to take it out for something else, but not sure what. Any suggestions?

Usually the first two dreads pod in on turn 1 to melta stuff and provide interference for the raider and the speeders zooming in. Tacs then arrive later where needed with Vulkan while scouts sit on objective and operate quad gun.
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I would drop the Vindicator and upgrade one of the scout squads to a tactical squad.

The dreadnoughts will die pretty quickly after they drop, I would try to fit an Ironclad with MG and HF; it has better survivability.

If you walk or deep-strike the Termies you can lose the LR for a squad of sternguards with combi-meltas and combi-flamers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/493335/5056704.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/493335/5056704.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/493335/5057093.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/493335/5057093.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/493335/5057527.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/493335/5057527.page GMT
2 full sniper teams seems a bit much. I might upgrade one to tacs in a rhino, and move up with the LR. Some cloaks and a HB might be nice for the squad left, Talion if you have the points.

Do you need the librarian? He is nice, but how much overkill do you need in your death-star? You already have Vulcan and the hammers. I also like a mix of claws and hammers, but as a Salamander player, I can't give you grief for going all hammers.

Instead of 3 versatile speeders, have you considered specializing? HF/HF and MM/MM are viable these days. Although with Vulcan TLing your melta, just a single MM might save some points. If you do need points for elsewhere, I'd drop one of these guys.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/493335/5057590.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/493335/5057590.page GMT