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				<description><![CDATA[ vulkan or a term chaplain, which do you think would work better with assault terms?<br /> <br /> If i go with vulkan ill need to drop a scout squad, leaving me with 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads still in a 2k list,  one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad will be in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(648);'>FoR</span> so it will only leave 2 to roam around and cap stuff,  if you want me to i can post my full list if you need me to]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 04:50:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Vulkan or term chaplain</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Vulkan.<br /> He buffs the terminators, and also buffs the rest of the army as well.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 05:32:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I cant remember but could some one clarify the buffs he gives, im looking at his page in my codex but im not seeing any thing about his buffs,  I could have sworn it was something to do with meltas flamers, and power weapons.  anyone know the page number off the top of their head?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 07:56:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/77de89ee93f57978239e896f2fc0dd08.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497068/5119012.page"><b>Backspacehacker wrote:</b></a><br/>I cant remember but could some one clarify the buffs he gives, im looking at his page in my codex but im not seeing any thing about his buffs,  I could have sworn it was something to do with meltas flamers, and power weapons.  anyone know the page number off the top of their head?<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> It's Vulkan's Chapter Tactics; page 93, right column.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:30:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Vulkan or term chaplain</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Page 93. Under chapter Tactics<br /> <br /> Edit: ninja'd]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ so wait since all <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span> would be master crafted does that mean they would all get re rolls to hit? just like if they had a chaplain with them?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:09:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No, only one reroll per Thunder Hammer, which means you have to roll each Terminator separately, which means extra time used up.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:14:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ so, then if i rolled each weapon one at a time i could re roll failed to hits<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:18:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Backspacehacker]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/77de89ee93f57978239e896f2fc0dd08.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497068/5119182.page"><b>Backspacehacker wrote:</b></a><br/>so, then if i rolled each weapon one at a time i could re roll failed to hits<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> No, you get to reroll ONE miss per weapon, so if you miss two attacks with a Thunder Hammer you only get to reroll one of them. This is also why you have to roll the models separately; otherwise you won't know if the misses are from the same weapon or from two different.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:24:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AlmightyWalrus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ok i get what you are saying, if i had vulkan with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>th</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>ss</span> squad and assaulted the 5 terms would get 1 re-roll and vulkan would get one re-reoll since they are using different weapons.  gotach <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:29:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Backspacehacker]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Vulkan cannot deepstrike though so keep that in mind]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:34:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Robbietobbie]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/77de89ee93f57978239e896f2fc0dd08.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497068/5119195.page"><b>Backspacehacker wrote:</b></a><br/>ok i get what you are saying, if i had vulkan with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>th</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>ss</span> squad and assaulted the 5 terms would get 1 re-roll and vulkan would get one re-reoll since they are using different weapons.  gotach <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> No thats incorrect, its more like each terminator would attack seperately each getting a single re-roll, but Vulkan wouldn't becuase he doesnt use a thunderhammer. Hope that helps.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:44:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ From a single unit perspective, I'd go with the chaplain.  Vulcan is very powerful, but requires you build your whole army around him to justify his points.  Not that this is a bad thing, Salamander lists are one of the better builds in the vanilla codex.  But they do tend to look the same after a while.<br /> <br /> The chaplain also gives his bonus to lightning claws, and I like mixed units of assault terminators.<br /> <br /> Another option is Cassius from the Ultramarines.  If you file the name and fluff off, he would fit right in with Salamanders.  His point cost is woefully low for the gear he's packing.  As long as you don't need the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(332);'>TDA</span> for deep striking, or a jump pack, he should be your go-to chaplain.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 13:51:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well i dont need deep strike he would be in a god hammer land raider.  i was just thinking i could take vulkan since my 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads already have a flamer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> and a combi melta.  i could just change the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> to a multi melta<br /> <br /> @johnom  but vulkans spear is master crafted so it would get to reroll as well right?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Dec 2012 19:16:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/77de89ee93f57978239e896f2fc0dd08.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497068/5120087.page"><b>Backspacehacker wrote:</b></a><br/>Well i dont need deep strike he would be in a god hammer land raider.  i was just thinking i could take vulkan since my 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads already have a flamer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> and a combi melta.  i could just change the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> to a multi melta<br /> <br /> @johnom  but vulkans spear is master crafted so it would get to reroll as well right?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Doesn't a Godhammer have a ten man capacity? That means 5 Termies and no-one else.<br /> <br /> But Vulkan is by far the better option.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Vanilla <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(388);'>SMs</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> Phobos have 12 modells transport capacity.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i have always though god hammer to just be a standard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> termies did not think it needed to be full but any way<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The name godhammer, like crusader and redeemer, refers to the armament and transport capacity]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Vulkan or term chaplain</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ To clarify exactly how it works for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span> in a Vulkan list; lets say you have ten <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> assault terminators.  They assault something and get 3 attacks per guy.  You would then roll your 30 dice *three at a time*.  In each group of three dice, you get to reroll one miss for being master crafted.  Hope that helps  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ or, if your oppenent is slightly more loose, you can roll 30 attacks then re-roll 10 of the 30. that how i always played it, but some rule nazi's would get on my case.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ so master crafted weapons work like if i had a chaplain in their group? because that what is sounding like.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Or...instead of rolling 3 at a time, just use different color dice: 3 black, 3 red, 3 white...etc, etc.  Roll 30, grab the appropriate misses (1 from each color) and keep on trucking.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ As long as Vulkan boosts whatever fills up the rest of your 2000 points then I would do it.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It really depends on the list you're bringing. A bunch of meltas and flamers along with Thundernators? Vulkan. Don't have a bunch of meltas and flamers? Chaplain. For me, I'd go with the one that benefits the army as a whole, instead of "how can I make this unit smash even more enemies into a bloody pulp?"]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ well would it be justifiable to use vulkan if he is in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span> squad. and i have 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads each with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> a flamer a combi melta, and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> with a multi melta.]]></description>
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