http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net AP value of the weapon which wounds them.

Eg.

AP 1/2 weapons would allow a 6++ (5++ for greater daemons and tzeench daemons)
AP 3/4 weapons would allow a 5++ (4++ for greater daemons and tzeench daemons)
AP 5/6/- weapons would allow a 4++ (3++ for greater daemons and tzeench daemons)

Do you think it's a good idea or just ridiculous?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/498144/5135952.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/498144/5135952.page GMT IMO. Why do you think this needs to be done? In my experience, Daemon's survivability is fine as is.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/498144/5136234.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/498144/5136234.page GMT AP value of the weapon used against them? That strikes me as defeating the purpose of giving them all invulnerable saves to begin with as opposed to armor of various kinds.

Might not be a bad houserule to try out for armor saves themselves though, the 'all or nothing' approach could do with a graded varient. (for an codex that has them, that is). ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/498144/5140154.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/498144/5140154.page GMT even worse? No.....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/498144/5140579.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/498144/5140579.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/498144/5141264.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/498144/5141264.page GMT