<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "How important is it to have "quell animosity" In an Orks and Goblin's army? "]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net How important is it to have "quell animosity" In an Orks and Goblin's army? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5161515.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5161515.page GMT How important is it to have "quell animosity" In an Orks and Goblin's army?
It depends on how much of your points are in animosity units and their tactical significance. If you have minimum core, I don't think it's a huge deal. But WHFB can be about positioning a lot and animosity can really screw that up if 2 brick walls appear in the middle of the map because 50 of your guys are fighting each other. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5162725.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5162725.page GMT How important is it to have "quell animosity" In an Orks and Goblin's army? BSB, and half the time you will be because your Black Orcs are so expensive). The savage orc death stars might need it, but the BO is usually a high priority target for the enemy and he is usually gone after unless he is well protected. Also it depends on how heavily you rely on magic, since no spells can be cast when you squabble. If you have 2 wizards, and combat units in your savage orc big un unit, with no quell animosity, then it could take a large portion of your game away for that turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5162919.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5162919.page GMT Re:How important is it to have "quell animosity" In an Orks and Goblin's army?
Sure, its nice to have a Blorc unit/boss around to quell it, but you are taking them for their combat power not that ability. If your Blorcs quell some animosity for you its just a bonus.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5164455.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5164455.page GMT Re:How important is it to have "quell animosity" In an Orks and Goblin's army? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5175742.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5175742.page GMT Re:How important is it to have "quell animosity" In an Orks and Goblin's army?
~xalfej]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5179828.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5179828.page GMT Re:How important is it to have "quell animosity" In an Orks and Goblin's army?
 xalfej wrote:
Animosity is not nearly as punishing as it has been in past books, and if you still haven't read the new animosity rules you may want to glance back at them. (not a jab at you, I also didn't read the animosity chart too closely thinking it was the same as the old 6th ed). When your plan is usually to be within charge range in turn 3 at the latest, most of the results on the animosity chart involve charging the enemy. The only time you may want to keep animosity under control is when you have a lot of points dumped into a unit, such as a 500pt block of savage orcs.

~xalfej


And thats why I'm asking lols... 50 man savage orc big uns

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That said for my next tourney Orc arm my savage orc and orc boy hordes will be led by black orc characters to bring absolute reliability to the units.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5214492.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5214492.page GMT Re:How important is it to have "quell animosity" In an Orks and Goblin's army?
 xalfej wrote:
Animosity is not nearly as punishing as it has been in past books, and if you still haven't read the new animosity rules you may want to glance back at them. (not a jab at you, I also didn't read the animosity chart too closely thinking it was the same as the old 6th ed). When your plan is usually to be within charge range in turn 3 at the latest, most of the results on the animosity chart involve charging the enemy. The only time you may want to keep animosity under control is when you have a lot of points dumped into a unit, such as a 500pt block of savage orcs.

~xalfej


Which a lot of people do. The standard 40 block of SOBUs with full command is just short of it, and if you add the shaman with the shrunken head you're well past 600 (more if that shaman is your main lv4 caster).

A quick easy fix is making your bsb a black orc, equip the armour of silvered steel and put him on the corner of the unit.

And then wait for all the shooting and magic go straight at that unit, of course

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I run a Black ORc BSB in my Savage boys with my lvl4 in the competative list - thats about it.

Sometimes I run a big block of Black Orcs, they don't need babysitting.

Everyone else suffers animosity. Without it, I lose games because of it and have at least 1-2 units suffer animosity rolls of "1" when I least need them to.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5226369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5226369.page GMT How important is it to have "quell animosity" In an Orks and Goblin's army? Problem is, when you fail Animosity, there's still a decent chance that the result will either be what you would have done anyway. If it's not, there's a 50-50 chance of you being worse off or better.
But then you toss in a 90pt Black Orc, and instead of what amounts to a wash, you get D6 S5 hits.

I think Animosity screwing you over versus getting hit by a Fanatic is about even, but then you have to pay the extra points for the Big Boss.
I don't think Quell Animosity is ever worth it on its own. If you've got another reason for having a Big Boss in the unit, maybe--maybe--upgrading him to a Black Orc is worthwhile.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5226762.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499626/5226762.page GMT How important is it to have "quell animosity" In an Orks and Goblin's army?
Warpsolution wrote:
If you've got another reason for having a Big Boss in the unit, maybe--maybe--upgrading him to a Black Orc is worthwhile.


That's why if I ever get to do the BO boss thing it's just an upgrade on the BSB.

In any case, not even having a BO boss in the unit will help you if a neighboring animosity-prone unit decides to pick a fight with them. Too often that's the case

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