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				<title>Back into the Fray!  A Dual Wing List!  2k</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Loving this new codex, enough that I want to jump right back into the game.<br /> <br /> <br /> Sammael on Bike<br /> Belial with Sword and Storm Bolter<br /> Deathwing Terminator Squad with Cyclone Missile Launcher, 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> (5)<br /> Ravenwing Attack Squadron with 6 Bikers, 2 Meltaguns, Attack Bike with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, Landspeeder Typhoon (6+1)<br /> Deathwing Knights with Perfidious Relic (5)<br /> Ravenwing Black Knights (3) <br /> Ravenwing Black Knights (3)<br /> Nephilim Jetfighter<br /> Land Speeder Vengeance<br /> Land Speeder Vengeance<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Let me know what you guys think.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:43:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sekai]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Back into the Fray!  A Dual Wing List!  2k</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Explain how Belial gets sword and Shield<br />      <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>pg</span> 92, Replace storm bolter and Sword of Silence with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span> & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> ... Free]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:04:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Steelpain]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Back into the Fray!  A Dual Wing List!  2k</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Since he has an iron halo, I don't see the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> as required.  Add to that his 5+ precision shots and an above average sword, and you have a very good package.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:04:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Piccolo]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Was a mistake, bro.  I meant Sword and Storm Bolter.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Jan 2013 05:37:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sekai]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Back into the Fray!  A Dual Wing List!  2k</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Going for competitive or just for funs?  Competitive-wise you’re going to have a lot of trouble with what is essentially just 2 troop selections.  Sure you can combat squad the Ravenwing and the attack bike has to be detached, but you’re still looking at 2 units of 3 bikes, 5 termies and a single attack bike to hold objectives with.  Even with T5, 3 bikes won’t hold together under any decent firepower.  <br /> <br /> My suggestion is to get more bodies on the field.  Black Knights seem good until you look at their points costs, could be better off as troop selections.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Jan 2013 06:22:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Disgruntled SCV]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The LSV is so horrible bad that its not even funny. 140pts for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(456);'>LS</span> platform that has the fire power of 1.5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>PGs</span> or a single large blast at 24" range? If you go competitive there is 0 room for them. <br /> <br /> Why not take Azreal? He is better than Belial and makes both <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> troops. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Jan 2013 07:59:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tedurur]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Azrael does seem better for the double wing approach, You have good, but expensive units, getting two expensive <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> doesnt really help. <br /> <br /> Belial's sword still seems meh, precise shot with a Storm Bolter seems situational at best. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span> for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> and lighter killing and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> for better save and vehicle killing still seems better.<br /> <br /> And since you are paying premium to get these <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> squads to be troops, run more than 1 squad of each.<br /> <br /> Deathwing Knights and Black Knights arent really needed, since you can get plenty out of the normal version of them that counts as scoring for you. <br /> <br /> Nephilim unfortunately is kinda bad for its cost, I think they had trouble figuring out if it should be hunting flyers or ground attack when they design it. Land Speeder Typhoons probably does its job better honestly.<br /> <br /> Vengeance with Assault Cannon would atleast pack some punch to justify it, though it is fragile for something so expensive, especially without a Darkshroud. <br /> <br /> Darkshroud would be good if you run more bikes (better cover when they turbo boost or have some cover in front of them) and obviously if you want to have more landspeeders. <br /> <br /> Predators and Vindicators probably wont be too bad either. <br /> <br /> Finally, get an Aegis Line with Quad Gun, because despite its name and fluff, Nephilims arent good at killing flyers.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:37:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jackster]]></author>
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