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				<description><![CDATA[ I was wondering if the helmet colours were different pre heresy for officers/sergeants as they are in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, ?<br /> Also,  I ve seen a few armies with red helmets and white lines up the middles, what does this represent ?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:39:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CitizenThane]]></author>
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				<title>Pre Heresy Imperial Fist Helmets</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The red helmets were a Codex Astartes addition, based on Roboute reversing an Ultramarine adoption of an old Nostroman gang tradition.<br /> <br /> Gangers who had betrayed their gang but were too useful to kill dyed their hands red as a mark of shame.  The Night Lords turned the red hands into a mark of censure to be worn on armor.  Curse explained the basics, but not the origin to Roboute, who added the red helmet as a mark of censure for poor performance to the Ultramarines.  Then an Ultramarine with a red helmet did something awesome and spoileriffic, so Roboute made the red helm into a mark of distinction in that Legionaire's honor.<br /> <br /> When the codex Astartes was written, the red helm became the standard identifier for a Sergeant.<br /> <br /> So before the Heresy, IF sergeants would not have had red helmets.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:52:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DaddyWarcrimes]]></author>
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				<title>Pre Heresy Imperial Fist Helmets</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I've head somewhere that all IF had red helmets pre-Heresy, not sure on the source or canonicity, probably just one guy's speculation, but I always thought it sounded cool.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 1 Feb 2013 16:57:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sir Samuel Buca]]></author>
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