<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Wash vs shade vs dipping"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/8.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Wash vs shade vs dipping http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5243785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5243785.page GMT Wash vs shade vs dipping
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As the article says, shading is the process of making certain areas of the model darker. There are many techniques for doing this: using darker primers, blending darker colors, washing, etc.

Washing is technique where by you use either a specially formulated wash or a home mixed wash to apply over your basecoat. Because the washes tend to be quite runny, they will naturally flow into the low areas that would be darker. Washes can be applied to selective areas of your figure or even to the full figure.

Dipping is another specific technique whereby you dunk your entire figure into a polyeurythene stain (or specially formulated dipping solution) which shades the entire figure. You can get some of the same effects with a full body wash.

Here is a video of dip being applied to some WW II figures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX71Vp9Zb5w]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5243810.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5243810.page GMT Re:Wash vs shade vs dipping
When folks mean washing, I think they refer to a line of paints/washes which was released prior to our current GW line. Most popular names you will see are Badab Black , Devlan Mud , somehting-Sepia. What they are is pretyt much a "special" type of dilluted black paint, which once applied, sinks into the edges of the model, and it gives it some depth.

Shade , unfortunately I can't tell you much about those as these are a recent release and I think they mix together with glazes and other paints, ultimately they just released new things to make minis look good for less and for folks who are not as skilled. If you are new to painting and want your minatures to look good, I would suggest you pick up one of those small guides which will show you each paint "type" and what it exactly dones / its purpose serves.

Dipping minatures is a process that preserves the color and the essence of your paint job you've perforemd. This is the last step in "preparing" your minature to be complety finished. Its usualy sold in bigger cans like pint or gallon as regular commercial wall paint, BUT! its a special coat, which if dipped in a mini, will procude a nice layer of protection for your a. travel b.bumps c. frequent touch (as in pick up put down, rub while looking on etc etc.)

hope this gives you some ideas ! but most importantly have fun with it! do what makes you happy! I had my 1st game yesterday and while I would have more than likely lost if I had to stay and play out the game completely, it was a blast! and I learend a lot and am looking forward to the next one !]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5243820.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5243820.page GMT Wash vs shade vs dipping GW line, washes are now called shades, so they work the same basically. They always help with painting, and can be used to blend colours together to make them darker, and then a glaze over that to make it brighter. I don't know much about dipping, so I'd look at what the other posters say.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5243871.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5243871.page GMT Wash vs shade vs dipping
In outline, you dunk the model in the wood stain, then spin or flick off the excess. When dried, the stained varnish will have gathered in the recesses and darkened them. It will also have varnished the figure though you may like to spray them matt as well.

Dip can alternatively be applied by brush, using the glob on and off method, which is slower but saves on the amount of varnish used.

The results of dipping are not as impressive in detail as careful highlighting, but they are much quicker and easier to achieve.

Dipping works particularly well on mainly organic figures such as Orks, Tyranids and IG.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5244016.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5244016.page GMT Wash vs shade vs dipping IMO, use whatever technique gives you the results you want the fastest.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5244033.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5244033.page GMT Wash vs shade vs dipping
'Shading' just means making the dark areas of a model darker - the opposite of 'Highlighting'. There are lots of ways to do this, including just painting a darker paint into the recesses.

One way you can do this is by washing - that is, using a dark, thin 'wash' painted over a flat basecoat which runs into the recesses of the model. There are many sorts of wash you can buy, or you can make your own. GW used to have a range of 'Washes', but recently rebranded and these are now called 'Shades'. So GW's 'Shades' range are just washes. Confusing, huh?

The most complete sort of washing you can do would be to wash the entire model the same colour (usually black or sepia), thus shading the whole model at once. The quickest way to do this is with a 'dip' - a tub of black or brown wash that you dip each model into.

Sometimes you can get dips that are actually just woodstained varnish, which have a similar shading effect but are thicker and protect the model - very popular in historical wargaming where there might be tons of models per army.

After washing/dipping, you could leave the model like that, or you could go back over and highlight raised areas.

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 Dreal wrote:
So for my that i have space wolves which is better the shade or the dip


Well, what do you mean by 'Shade'?

Do you mean the GW range of 'Shades', or do you meanjust shading your model the traditional way (painting dark, and working up to bright)?

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Personally I find washes/shades and dips to not be overly useful for Space Marines. The technique of "shading", yes, that's good, and washes/shades can be used in combination with other techniques, but I find for Space Marines using washes/shades/dips aren't the magic bullet like they are for many other armies.

So yeah, if you give us an idea of how you want them to look, then maybe we can help you, or you might even find some tutorials yourself.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5244539.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5244539.page GMT Wash vs shade vs dipping http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5244965.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5244965.page GMT Wash vs shade vs dipping
 Dreal wrote:
I spray them with army painter wolf grey and then i just color the gun shoulder and some details.I saw a tutorial and he use a shade/wash named badab black that why I ask


Yes, Badab Black was one of the old Washes GW used to sell

These are now called Shades, and the replacement is called 'Nuln Oil'

You're better off trying it out and seeing what you think - test it on one model. If you're only doing basecoats at the moment, then a simple wash of Nuln Oil might improve the look of your models quite a lot.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5245082.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/504897/5245082.page GMT