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Lord Kaldor Draigo 275

1 Paladin, Nemesis Daemon Hammer 55
1 Paladin, Nemesis Daemon Hammer 55

Stormraven, TL Plasma Cannon, TL Multi Melta 205 X2
Stormraven, TL Assault Cannon, TL Heavy Bolter (would prefer MM on this but out of parts) 205

1000pts on the dot

So what do you think?
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Vendetta spam will nuke it, it can't kill enough to make it worthwhile, and having 4 wounds worth of troops makes it impossible to hold an objective.

Taking Coteaz and inq retinues as troops might make this better, but it's only gilding the lily.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258812.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258841.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258841.page GMT
If you want a Draigowing at 1000 pts....I would say no more than 2 ravens(really one). Draigowing's model count is low enough as it is in higher pt games, it will be worse at this pt level. I can think of alot more lists at 1000 pts for GK that will do a better job. None of them have Draigo in it. I would save him only for 2k range lists.

just my CC


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Also to support Valhallan42nd's argument, I would put 3 dettas no matter what in a detta spam under 2k. Dought I would put a quad gun in the list since there is alot of AA already. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258850.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258850.page GMT
Oh and yes i do have a henchmen army so thats an option
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My advise is leave draigo untill about 1750 points range ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258925.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258925.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258929.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258929.page GMT
1 Chimera(with henchmen+ Coteaz )
3 razorbacks with assault cannon(with henchmen )
3 psy-dreads

Psy-bolted is a must

Having most if not all the army is twinlinked(due to psy powers), so not really a need for AA. Spray until its dead ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258937.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258937.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258943.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258943.page GMT MM serv's and warriors with meltas in the chimera]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258955.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5258955.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5259052.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5259052.page GMT
Henchmen are one of the most versatile units in all of 40k, so they are quite difficult to build into units and to make into lists.




On your list:

it is very silly.


You start with 3 models on the board. The enemy has a couple of turn before your ravens show up to kill those 3 models. With an entire 1000 point army shooting at 3 dudes, there is a good chance they will die Even though they are 3 very durable models. You have a good chance of being tabled before your Ravens arrive.

You have 2 scoring models. If they die and you are playing an objective game (5/6 missions), the best you can hope for is probably a tie. You will probably give up first blood as you will have single paladin on the table somewhere.

Hiding behind terrain is possible but not always. In most Tournaments, there is less terrain on each table, as they have to set up more tables than usual. If you are against a list that DS first turn (daemons, or drop pods) they may be able to find you even if you hide. Barrage weapons, scout moves or infiltrators are also concerns as well.

Even if you survive until your ravens come on, there is no guarantee that they will win you the game. They enemy can bring other flyers or flyer defense at 1000 points.


So IF you don't die on the first couple of turns, and IF your flyers come on early, and IF the enemy can not shoot them down and IF they leave some objective alone for you paladins to sneak to, you can win.

That is a lot of IFs that need to go your way for you to win.


I prefer a more TAC style of list, where you have a good chance to win, no matter what the enemy brings or happens in the first few turns.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5260757.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5260757.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5260778.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5260778.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5261000.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5261000.page GMT IIRC 50% rounding up can start off the table. The stormravens dont count as they are compulsory reserves. So he could start with just Draigo on the board solidly behind cover for the first turn using psychic communion to bring the flyers and paladins in on a 3+ second turn. Its a crap strategy but would be entertaining to watch and even more entertaining to see Draigo killed by alpha striking podded stern guard with 10x combi-meltas. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5261024.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5261024.page GMT
Coteaz

6x psykers with a Jokaero X3

Purgation Squad 4 Psycannons ( goes with coteaz)

2x Storm Ravens

980 pts (any ideas what to get with the last 20 pts)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5266092.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5266092.page GMT LoS. Anything that provides a 5+ isn't going to be any better than your invulnerable save, and Fearless means you can't go to ground to make it any better. Since LoS is based from the models point of view, it's far more likely that they'll be able to shoot and grant a cover save, than not be able to shoot at all.

While the list isn't all that great, what you could do, is drop one Stormraven. Take 2 more Paladins and put them in the 2 Stormaravens you still have, and take a Bastion. Draigo joins a Paladin inside the Bastion, forcing your opponent to deal with that before getting to Draigo, and effectively gains a Heavy Bolter, and whatever emplaced gun you put on the Bastion. Use Draigo's Tactics and give the Lone Paladin outflank or just Deep Strike him. If not, you can always put him on top of the Bastion lifting his Terminator Loinplate all Braveheart style because he'll have that 4+ cover save but won't be doing much else.

This doesn't make the list any more competitive, but on 1k points, should make it so that you see more than 2 turns, give you lots of laughs, and have the knowledge that if you took this to a small tournament, every opponent you play will remember your army.

I built a 10 model, 2k army built on a similar concept. it won 1/2 it's games before this edition, it's on the shelf now because of the current rules, and will get back on the table when I get some money to afford a Fortress of Redemption. It's a themed list more of a competitive list. Still fun as hell, and Im crazy enough to take it to a tournament.


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Also it only has 1 troop

And purgation squads are not any good tbh]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5269941.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5269941.page GMT
Coteaz 100

3 Servitors with Multi Meltas in Chimera (for Coteaz to ride with) 85
3 Warrior Acolytes with 3 Meltaguns in Chimera 97
3 Warrior Acolytes with 3 Meltaguns in Chimera 97
3 Warrior Acolytes with 3 Plasmaguns in Chimera 97
3 Warrior Acolytes with 3 Plasmaguns in Chimera 97

2 Stormravens, armed with whatever 410

It's just a theoretical list, and the henchmen would die horribly the second they stepped out of their chimeras, but the chimeras themselves add a whole load of anti infantry firepower. Hopefully opponents would have too much to shoot at!

Can Coteaz take divination by the way? Cos that would be cool...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5271008.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5271008.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5271493.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505905/5271493.page GMT