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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm going to do an enrmous paiting of Fulgrim, sort of as a prop replica of the demonicallly-possesseed portrait of him that is hung in La Fenice (for those of you who know not of this painting, read "Fulgrim" or "The Reflection Crack'd" by Graham McNeill).<br /> The reference image I will be using for Fulgrim's facial structure is this (taken from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> wikia) as I feel it represents his effeminate and androgynous nature <br /> <br /> <img src="http://www.images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110323034716/warhammer40k/images/2/2f/Fulgrim_%26_Retinue.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> What I'm trying to do is find an image of a real person (actor, model etc.) to work from, as I want to capture a degree of realism. I've been debating using this image of Ben Barnes, who played Dorian Grey in the 2009 film (a very similar character to Fulgrim, I must say).<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4600000/ben-barnes-bafta-ben-barnes-4667063-1707-2560.jpg?1360201556705" border="0" /><br /> (I am truly sorry, I haven't a clue how to make this smaller)<br /> <br /> However, I'm not entirely sold on it. If anyone knows of a better image that more closely resembles a live-action version of the image of Fulgrim that I've posted, please post it in this thread!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I always mentally associate Fulgrim with David Bowie, whenever I read novels about him that's the face / voice I imagine. <br /> I'm not sure if that's quite the look you're going for though...<br /> <br /> <img src="http://www.geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2013/01/2013-1-7-david_bowie_ziggy_2-533x299.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://static.nme.com/images/gallery/DavidBowieAladdin.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://matthew-walton.co.uk/scriptfrenzy/David_Bowie.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bill Kaulitz would work <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>. Most androgynous looking man I've ever seen. <br /> <br /> <img src="http://genderfork.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Bill-Kaulitz-2.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hes handsome and a little effeminate, but not an actual bloody woman. Grimtuffs picture is a bit ridiculous in my eyes, the guy is meant to look feline and graceful but ultimately, a big muscular bad ass fether, not like an actual woman. <br /> <br />  Same goes for Bowie. I think the actor you picked is an excellent choice, just change his hair colour. <br /> <br />  Or, actually here, you could use me, my missus said I look effeminate as feth. <br /> <br />  Your welcome. <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br />  <img src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/69620_10151248758050981_745377958_n.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br />  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ hese images are actually from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> (unlike that weird anime thing in the first post), though they're after the fall - so a bit sunken and hollow-eyed.<br /> <br /> [imghttp://4.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span>.blogspot.com/-JbusJ2QqaXM/TgeElfme8vI/AAAAAAAACNc/1y6eihRQsUs/s1600/Primarch+Fulgrim+of+the+Emperors+Children..JPG[/img]<br /> [imghttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110323041261/warhammer40k/images/4/4d/Ferrus_Manus_vs._Fulgrim.jpg[/img]<br /> <br /> Weirdly, he looks a bit like Richard E Grant or Peter o'Toole in one of those pics - so delicate features, and refined, but not as 'pretty/girlish' as some of the emo references above. He's often referred to as androgynous and attractive, but I've never seen him refered to as 'youthful'. <br /> <br /> So, maybe the David Bowie reference is the closest so far - here's some pictures of young Richard E Grant and Peter o' Toole?<br /> <br /> <img src="http://www.britmovie.co.uk/wp-content/images/people/348-Peter-OToole.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/37/44/37445beffc5feda6399e524780f0b2b2.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://newsevents.arts.ac.uk/files/2009/03/cochrane_richardegrant_232.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://liambluett.com/wp-content/uploads/media/2011/04/Richard-E.-Grant-820x1024.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://www.richard-e-grant.com/Articles/PlaysAndPlayers1-May1996.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What you think he's better than the top bloke he already posted?!<br /> <br />  I don't know the actor from Adam but he would look excellent for the job if his hair was died. Grant isn't classically handsome, the top dude is. <br /> <br />  The primarchs are gene rinsed Gods! They almost overdo the endless description of how they are all <br /> <br />  a) Big muscular fethers<br />  b) Handsome fethers.<br />  3) Awesome to gaze upon. <br />  <br />  Grant isn't very good looking, and he looks a weed. I reckon his own choice is the best so far, maybe Brad Pitt in Troy or something as well, but not just blokes who look a bit girly.<br /> <br />  Ive read all of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> books and I always took Fulgrim for being lithe and graceful, slimmer than other Primachs, but still super toned and muscular, he is always described as larger than Space Marines. And sure with a slim face, but with a hard as granite chin and big cheekbones. <br /> <br />  As I said, a classically handsome somewhat effeminate bloke, but not a skinny wimpy looking fether like Richard E Grant or a man who actually almost entirely resembles a woman like Grimtuff suggested! <br /> <br />  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:29:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/7794a23f24ef1f8669a2ff39a8c65200.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505956/5260940.page"><b>ArbitorIan wrote:</b></a><br/>hese images are actually from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> (unlike that weird anime thing in the first post), though they're after the fall - so a bit sunken and hollow-eyed.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JbusJ2QqaXM/TgeElfme8vI/AAAAAAAACNc/1y6eihRQsUs/s1600/Primarch+Fulgrim+of+the+Emperors+Children..JPG" border="0" /><br /> <img src="http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110323041261/warhammer40k/images/4/4d/Ferrus_Manus_vs._Fulgrim.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Sorry, I didn't actually mean to post, I was just trying to correct the Images that AI used. <br /> <br /> How about Sephiroth, I know he isn't a real person but I think there are a couple of similarities there.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:55:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Fulgrim look-alike needed for La Fenice painting.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ As it so happens...<br /> <br /> I did not make this, as it happens.<br /> <img src="http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/272/a/2/fulgrim_is_fabulous_by_ordothanatus-d4ba7np.jpg" border="0" />]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Crystal Geyser]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e4d765731f8e7314c30883118d84d5de.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/505956/5260862.page"><b>Grimtuff wrote:</b></a><br/>Bill Kaulitz would work <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>.</div></blockquote>I think you're on to something there.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://s1.favim.com/orig/24/bill-kaulitz-omfg-tokio-hotel-Favim.com-219822.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> Or maybe (sans moles of course)<br /> <br /> <img src="http://ftape.com/model/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Andrej-Pejic-The-Model-Wall-Ftape_06.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <img src="http://andrejpejicmodel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/andrej-pejic-model-32.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <img src="http://blaizecaprice.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/andrej-pejic-for-oyster-magazine-malemodelscenenet-021.jpeg" border="0" /><br /> <img src="http://natalieviefencing.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/img-article-andrej-pejic_234425944934.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <img src="http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmpuziBUtT1qgr35v.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <img src="http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_Hc61fuh3D2SocgWRCSmVQERTZcRFLdtmCW-_sF38H1ASElhO" border="0" />]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Manchu]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Now the next question comes. It's a tossup between Ben Barnes and Bill Kualitz, but there's a more important question.<br /> <br /> The painting alternates between being horrifically deformed and demonic, and being majestic and regal (depending on whether the demon or Fulgrim is inhabiting it at any given time).<br /> <br /> Which version should I paint?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 7 Feb 2013 22:32:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Crystal Geyser]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well first off I really think you should consider using Andre as your model.<br /> <br /> Second, to whatever extent you incorporate the horrific, Fulgrim should be portrayed as at least somewhat sexually desirable if only in a broad and purely carnal sense.  That's the baseline.  The portrayal should motivate the desire to serve as well.  Think of it terms of adjectives: sleek, alluring, majestic, and vital.<br /> <br /> One more:<br /> <br /> <img src="http://www.deviantart.com/download/322022105/andrej_pejic_by_iceteaedwin-d5bq1uh.jpg" border="0" />]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Manchu]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I do like Andre, but the one reason I prefer Barnes over him is simply because Barnes' face has the capacity to have a hint of cruelty to it. <br /> Andre is too angelic, too good-natured. He'd make an amazing Sanguinius, though. <br /> Fulgrim's beauty is a bit...I don't know how to put this, but the word crueler comes to mind. <br /> There is a slight curve to Barnes's lips, a slight glint in his eyes, that I feel has the ability to be interpreted as the harsher, untouchable beauty that Fulgrim embodies.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> But what people think about the demonic/honorific motif?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Crystal Geyser]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I can see what you mean, he has thinner lips.  But Andre looks pretty cruel in that armor.<br /> <br /> At the same time, I don't believe cruelness is at the heart of Fulgrim's character.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'll keep him in consideration.<br /> <br /> But seriously guys, demon or no?]]></description>
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