http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net CSM army. I was going for the Fallen theme that had settled onto a Deamon World and thanks to the efforts of the Ex-Techmarine, Warpsmith Talos, have begun subjugating hordes of Deamons and gathering cultists into an army. They are led by Crixius, the Black Lion; once a Terminator Captain that fought alongside the Lion himself, and he is accompanied by his Disciples of the Black Lion, the remainder of the Terminators he persuaded to follow him. He now leads his armies in a Campaign with a single goal in mind: to bring their former Primarch to his knees, and end his life for the entire Imperium to see. I am trying to keep this list as fluffy as possible, while at the same time competitive.

"While our enemy hides, I shall be the Shepard stealing his flock from him. When the time comes he shows his face, he will be alone and my claw at his throat; the Fallen finally triumphant at last." - Crixius

HQ:

Crixius the Black Lion (Chaos Lord) - 147
Terminator Armor (Lightning Claw, Combi-plasma), Blight Grenades, MoN, Melta Bombs, VotLW

Warpsmith Talos (Warpsmith) - 155
Burning Brand of Skalanthrax, Combi-Plasma, VotLW

Elites:

Disciples of the Black Lion - 346
Icon of Flame, MoN, VotLW, 1 Terminator Champion with Lightning Claw and Combi-plasma, 1 Terminator with Lightning Claw and Reaper Autocannon, 1 Terminator with Lightning Claw and Chainfist, 3 Terminators with Lightning Claw and Combi-plasma
Troops:

Chaos Space Marines - 258
Aspiring Champion with Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, 8 Marines with additional CCW, 1 Marine with Plasma Gun, all with MoK, embarked on Rhino with Havok Launcher and Dirge Castor

Chaos Space Marines - 258
Aspiring Champion with Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, 8 Marines with additional CCW, 1 Marine with Plasma Gun, all with MoK, embarked on Rhino with Havok Launcher and Dirge Castor

Chaos Cultists - 63
1 Cultist Champion, 10 Cultists, 1 Cultist with Flamer

Chaos Cultists - 83
1 Cultist Champion, 15 Cultists, 1 Cultist with Flamer

Fast Attack:

Helldrake - 170
Baleflamer

Helldrake - 170
Baleflamer

Heavy Support:

Forgefiend - 175
2 hades Autocannons

Forgefiend - 175
2 hades Autocannons

Crixius will be fielded or deepstruck, depending on the field and deployment with the Terminators, while the Warsmith will move with the Forgefiends and Camp an objective, using the smaller cultist squad as bubblewrap. If the Infiltrate Warlord Trait is rolled, I plan on infiltrating the CSM squads onto objectives. If not I plan on using the larger of the Cultist units as a cover shield for the footslogging SMs or Termies if they foot it out. I'm contemplating if I want to shrink the SM squads and knock a couple cultists or two to fit in 2 Rhinos for the smaller SM units to ride in. Any Comments and suggestions are appreciated.

*edited for last minute List changes*

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506231/5263949.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506231/5263949.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506231/5265734.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506231/5265734.page GMT CSM, I'd say your list is well balanced but lacks anything to take terminators et al down in close combat. Also, LC on a lord seems like a waste; so often I see chaos lords locked in endless challenges against enemy characters because they didn't bring an AP2 weapon.
I'd bring moar CSM in place of the cultists as well or use the points to add ectocannons to the fiends for added ap2 killen.
Otherwise, like I said, looks well balanced and competitive.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506231/5265948.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506231/5265948.page GMT SMs, what do i do wit the Warpsmith? just field him alone and try to stay out of Los next to the Fiends?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506231/5266821.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506231/5266821.page GMT I'd suggested adding ectos rather than replacing the cannons on the arms; obviously if you've already built them with the normal head there might not be much you can do, but it's worth thinking about. On the one hand it seems a waste when firing at termies etc with the arm guns just to direct one AP2 template at them but on the other hand being str8 the ecto is worth it against armour, same as the armguns.
My point however was being able to take on 2+ sv stuff in close combat. If you're unlucky a unit of termies could just jump between your squads in the wrong turn (for you) and never give you a chance to ectoplaz them. Ergo I would think about anti-terminator CC weapons on your own termies or at least an AP2 weapon on the lord.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506231/5268778.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506231/5268778.page GMT