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Eldrad
Avatar of Khaine
Archon with Shadow Field and Power Sword

8 Harlequins with Kisses

12 Guardians with Bright Lance
10 Kabalite Warriors with Dark Lance
10 Wraithguard with Spirit Seer (conceal)
3 Guardian Jetbikes

3 War Walkers with 2x Scatter Lasers
3 War Walkers with 2x Scatter Lasers
Wraithlord with Bright Lance, Scatter Laser, 2x Flamers

The Archon goes with Eldrad and the Harlies. This is really the only configuration I've ever tried with Eldar; I have a few points left but I haven't figured out quite where to stick them yet. I will probably take the power sword off the Archon and try to give him a better weapon. I also had a Farseer in at first and then realized that I don't think I can make it without having two Fortunes going off each turn. Let me know what you think.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506995/5275029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506995/5275029.page GMT Tourney List 1850 Eldar with Dark Eldar Allies http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506995/5275355.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506995/5275355.page GMT Tourney List 1850 Eldar with Dark Eldar Allies
Those clowns NEED a shadowseer. This is not really debatable. Fortune em, walk em behind the WG and get 2++ saves.

I would put eldrad with the WG, the harlies lose fleet, and his toughness will not save them. Put the archon here as well. I second running the baron over a regular con.

Give the jetbikes a cannon if you can find points.

If you can find the points, getting an allied flier or ravager would be nice, to get more dark lances. Consider giving the kabbies and S. cannon, and the guardians a scatter(or making them into kabbies)


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Eldar Force

HQ Eldrad - 210 (goes in wraith guard)


Troops
10 Wraith guard - Spirit seer with singing spear and conceal 399
3 GJB - 1 with Cannon - 76


Elites:

Harlequins x 7 with a Shadow seer. (Only 5 kisses sadly as just a few points shy, so lose the 3 without first to wounds where possible) (Baron goes here) - 194

Heavy Support
Wraithlord - BL and EML 155
Wraithlord - BL and EML 155
Warwalker Squadron - 3 x 2 SL - 180

Dark Elder
HQ
Baron -105

Troops
10 x kabbies with DL - 115
10 x Kabbies with DL - 115

Heavy support
Razor wing Fighter 145

Total 1849

Not sure how well that'd do but might be worth a try.

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Abysswalker wrote:
Still new here but my suggestions looking at your list is to make the following changes. Firstly at that point value you need both troops and a way to deal with baleturkeys. I think the following list provides both.

Eldar Force

HQ Eldrad - 210 (goes in wraith guard)


Troops
10 Wraith guard - Spirit seer with singing spear and conceal 399
3 GJB - 1 with Cannon - 76


Elites:

Harlequins x 7 with a Shadow seer. (Only 5 kisses sadly as just a few points shy, so lose the 3 without first to wounds where possible) (Baron goes here) - 194

Heavy Support
Wraithlord - BL and EML 155
Wraithlord - BL and EML 155
Warwalker Squadron - 3 x 2 SL - 180

Dark Elder
HQ
Baron -105

Troops
10 x kabbies with DL - 115
10 x Kabbies with DL - 115

Heavy support
Razor wing Fighter 145

Total 1849

Not sure how well that'd do but might be worth a try.



This is very close to what I was thinking but I just don't know if the Voidraven Bomber is better for me than the Razorwing. I also have more love vested in the walkers as they really have a high potential to damage both flyers and troops where a BL ML carrying Wraithlord doesn't have it. I hate losing my Avatar just for his punch but I feel I would have a hard time baby sitting him and the fear bubble is just short of worthless.


Here's a list I whipped up:

Eldrad (with WG)
Baron Sathonyx (with Harlies)

6+1 Harlequins with 5 Kisses (Shadowseer)

10 Wraithguard with Spiritseer
3 Guardian Jetbikes with Shuriken Cannon
10 Kabalite Warriors with Dark Lance
10 Kabalite Warriors With Dark Lance

3 Eldar War Walkers with 2x Scatter Laser each
3 Eldar War Walkers with 2x Scatter Laser each
Wraithlord with Bright Lance, Scatter Laser, 2x Flamers
Razorwing Jetfighter (basic loadout)

This comes out to 1848. I am really on the War Walkers side but just would need someone to explain to me how the Wraithlord would be a better choice. The only thing I can come up with is that he lasts much longer than the War Walkers but it's hard to argue against the fire power they spew out.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506995/5276835.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506995/5276835.page GMT Tourney List 1850 Eldar with Dark Eldar Allies GJB's, which will be out of the bubble. Using kabbies over guardians reduces his need. Now you can give fortune to the WG and Harlies.

I would keep the baron with the WG, his stealth will help the WG(you should give the spiritseer conceal) he also provides assault and defensive grenades, and hit and run. Harlequins have all of those things(well not defensive grenades, but charging harlequins is asking for trouble) so the wraiths get a lot of benefit.

Wraithlords and war walkers do different things and serve different roles. WW's spam S6, no doubt about it. A wraithlord however, can be near impossible to kill for certain lists and makes good use of the S8 weapons in our codex. 3 squads of scatter walkers will cut rhinos and troops apart, but cant touch a predator. Wraithlords can, and they will. Only having a single MC, they are an easy picking...I would go 2 lords 1 WW squad(getting eldrad's guide), but 2 WW's 1 lord is not bad.

Wraithlords also puppydog your psyker units. They will have to be close to eldrad, the spiritseer or the shadowseer, meaning they are never too far from the clowns or their little wraith brothers. They are good on the advance assault, but then again war walkers love to be guided...
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My reason for suggesting the 2 lords over 1 is it forces your enemy to prioritize their fire. With just one lord it is a case of target practice as every heavy weapon that can hit it will. In fact I have one lord painted with a bullseye after having that very thing happen many times in 3rd.

WW are solid but looking at the list without a second lord you are struggling to deal with heavier armor on turn one. That can put you behind the 8 ball and could mean you are playing catch up all game.

I'd suggest a few test matches to see how both lists work, and choose the one that feels right for you. Being comfortable with the army will help you a lot more than a single gun or model will when the pressure is on.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506995/5277751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/506995/5277751.page GMT