<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition "]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition Ps it can be the 8 basic lores and all army specific lores as well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5287715.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5287715.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5287927.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5287927.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5287968.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5287968.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition Id say chaos. Ive seen chaos demons wreck vc magic phases]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5287989.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5287989.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition VC are good. If they didn't have magic they would lose EVERY match!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288039.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288039.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition Ld modifier that is easy to cast and it is capable of pushing your enemy's general and/or BSB out of range when they need it most and its effects are usually subtle enough that you can trick your opponent into not putting enough effort into dispelling them, making it much easier to cast them.

Also comet spam, nuff said.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288365.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition
sounds like a winner to me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288489.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288489.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288591.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288591.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition
 Krellnus wrote:
Heavens, it has a stackable negative Ld modifier that is easy to cast and it is capable of pushing your enemy's general and/or BSB out of range when they need it most and its effects are usually subtle enough that you can trick your opponent into not putting enough effort into dispelling them, making it much easier to cast them.

Also comet spam, nuff said.


Iceshard Blizzard stacks? Surely not with itself?

It seems theres a lot of love for Heavens in my local meta too... suits me just fine, I'm probably going to be using lots of skink priests until i can convert something into a 'counts-as' slann.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288756.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition
I think it really depends on the army your taking. And how it meshes with your list. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288815.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288815.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition

 Micky wrote:
 Krellnus wrote:
Heavens, it has a stackable negative Ld modifier that is easy to cast and it is capable of pushing your enemy's general and/or BSB out of range when they need it most and its effects are usually subtle enough that you can trick your opponent into not putting enough effort into dispelling them, making it much easier to cast them.

Also comet spam, nuff said.


Iceshard Blizzard stacks? Surely not with itself?

It seems theres a lot of love for Heavens in my local meta too... suits me just fine, I'm probably going to be using lots of skink priests until i can convert something into a 'counts-as' slann.


Yes, all spells stack. Even instances of the same spell. page 31.


Note that bonuses and penelties from Hex, Augment, and other spells are cumulative, but normally cannot take any characteristic above 10 or below 1.



As we are not told that multiples of the same spell are not cumulative as per this section they do indeed stack.


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Thats pretty potent - although you are sacrificing some other pretty useful spells to do it]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288972.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288972.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition lvl 4

Furthermore, you have 1 debuffed enemy unit while the rest is completely unaffected.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288990.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5288990.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition
I do not believe in magic lore better]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5289050.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5289050.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition
 Felixjaeger wrote:
it most important is to choose the right one for your army, the more things that you supply, ranged attacks if your army does not have, combat if your army is weak, resistance if your army is weak....

I do not believe in magic lore better


And also to consider your ability to get the spells off reliably. For instance, there's no doubting that Shadow is a very powerful lore, with some absolutely deadly spells, but with my Empire army power dice are at a premium, especially when combat is met the lore's powerful hex and buff spells are directly competing with my warrior priest's buffs.

On the other hand Fire is generally considered a weak lore, but I find it has a very useful place within my army - with plenty of direct damage spells I find I can have a turn or two where my mage gets all my power dice and lends some very handy support to my artillery, and when combat is met the buff spells are fairly cheap and don't dice away from my Warrior Priests.

And that's why it's a bit strange to see people talking about army specific lores. I mean, the without their lore the Vampire Counts would be unplayable, but that's all factored in to the design of the army. It isn't a powerful or weak, lore, it's the lore you have to take to make the army work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5298221.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5298221.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5302734.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5302734.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition d6 wounds per rank, which is brilliant against any army that can take us in a war of attrition.

It doesn't have any big 'I win' spells but I still think it is one of the best Lores out there (though not the best) simply because anything you roll is going to be good.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5302872.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5302872.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition
For instance, shadow works wonders on DE, but on VC it isn't as effective.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303000.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303000.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition BRB lore).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303029.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition BRB lores are a weird case though. Whereas the army book lores are all extremely well balanced, the BRB lores reek of poor balancing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303084.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303084.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition BRB lores? I mean, 8th edition is released. The very next armybook released after the new edition (in essence, the first 8th edition armybook) immediately starts scaling back the power of the lores presented within. Why such an immediate and drastic change? And that calls into question - what were they thinking with the BRB lores?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303217.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303217.page GMT Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition Guo and heavy infantry Daemons. Lore of life was my go to. For my tomb kings it's death and nehek. However my vote.

I think beasts is really strong.

Wysaans is very solid.
Flock is meh, but for an 8+ to cast, you can start chipping away at high t stuff with low armour, like war machines.
Pann's and SAvage require having a decent character close by. Savage Beasts on a herald of slannesh is out of control.
amber spear, solid anti monster help
Curse helps wreck hordes, win combat, win movement phase.
Transformation gives you a sweet beast of dooooom. And a good reason to have an amazingly well painted model on the display board.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303231.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303231.page GMT Re:Most powerful magic lore in 8th edition
Heavy Armored armies - Metal
Low Initiative armies - Death
Low Tuff and low saves - Fire
Need buffs? - Life Light and Shadow
Need effective anti-dead magic - Light
Need to cripple? - Death and Shadow

I'm not as up on the army Lores, however they tend to be tailor made for the army they belong to.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303238.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/507705/5303238.page GMT