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				<description><![CDATA[ I am new to this so if I made any illegal mistakes let me know.<br /> <br /> <font color='red'><b>Throggy List</b></font><br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Total</b>:</font> 2996<br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Lords:</b></font> (Total: 745)<br /> <font color='orange'>Deamon Prince (400)</font> - Chaos Armour, Demonic Flight, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span>. GOC Burning Body, Scaled Skin, Flaming Breath, Soul Feeder. Item, Sword of Swift Slaying.<br /> <br /> <font color='orange'>Sorcerer Lord (345)</font> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>LVL</span> 4. Lore & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MOT</span>, GOC Third of Eye of Tzeench, Level 4, Disc of Tzeentch. Item Dispell Scroll, Enchanted Shield.<br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Heroes:</b></font> (Total: 195)<br /> <font color='orange'>Throgg (195)</font> - Will be with Chaos Ogres<br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Core:</b></font> (Total: 894)<br /> <font color='orange'>Troll</font> x 6 (228) AHW<br /> <font color='orange'>Troll</font> x 6 (228) AHW<br /> <font color='orange'>Troll</font> x 6 (228) AHW<br /> <font color='orange'>Forsaken</font> x 10 (210) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span><br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Special:</b></font> (Total: 705)<br /> <font color='orange'>Chaos Ogres</font> x 15 (705) Full Command, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span><br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Rare: </b></font> (Total: 452)<br /> <font color='orange'>Dragon Ogre Shaggoth (227)</font> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span><br /> <font color='orange'>Slaughterbrute (225) </font>Extra Claws - Linked to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span><br /> <br /> <br /> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> I am not sure how this will hold up but I thought it looked decent.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just a quick reply, you have too many points in your Lord selection, (2400 is a more normal army size and even then you can only take 600 points worth - 25%)<br /> <br /> Other than that, it looks pretty hardcore!<br /> <br /> Another thing actually, the demonblade is a bit rubbish, best off giving him <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(474);'>ASF</span> so that he can reroll to hits, his high strength is awesome and you'll usually get more hits through for cheaper. Plus if you do that  drop dawnstone? with soul feeder and farming light units he shouldnt worry about taking the odd wound.<br /> ALSO(!!) if he's flying, try taking a breath weapon gift as it'll really annoy your enemy, a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> landing behind them, flaming them then charging next turn!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Isnt 750 out of 3000 25%? Though I like all the other advice. I donot like the daemon blade. The dawnstone was a precautionary for taking on rares or medish units.<br /> <br /> There is just not really anything to use on any points less than 50.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What is the item <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> on the sorcerer?<br /> <br /> Bit worried about the small troll sizes. Only one of them can actually have more than one rank]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> is dispell scroll.<br /> <br /> And as for the size it can be shuffled but it all depends. They dont always need to be ranked but I can rank two and small 1 group.  That was the thought but I wasnt sure.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yep, 750 is 25% of 3k. But you put at the top your total was 2295 :p <br /> Also I've just added it up quickly in my head and came to 3005 anyway..]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I wasnt trying to be rude I did put 3k in the thread title and I made a typo in points on the list and total derp on that. I adjusted the list for trolls I will update shortly.<br /> <br /> Edit: Main list changed slightly for items/rearrangement.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I didn't think you were being rude, figured there must've been some cock up or confusion somewhere :-)  <br /> I thought maybe you were aiming for 3k after that list looked good. Ah well! <br /> <br /> List looks good now, though why <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>mok</span> on the forsaken? It only gives them fear <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>iirc</span>, if you do slaanesh they get swiftstride which is quite nice and you already have a lot of fear causing units? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I happen to have my codex so I will list the marks really quick.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span> : Gives Hatred<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MOT</span>: Gives Magic Resistance 2<br /> MON : Fear (pointless with fear in 8th <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>)<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(101);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(616);'>MOS</span></span> : Swiftstrider<br /> <br /> It was a toss up between <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(101);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(616);'>MOS</span></span> really I still am not 100% on which but I favor hatred but since they need to get in quickly swiftstride seems good.<br /> <br /> <font color='orange'>Unrelated to List:</font><br /> <br /> Only thing that makes me go ugh is the lack of good troll models out there (searched and found a lot of things but nothing I liked) The closest thing I liked were the nurgle plague trolls but needing so many to buy forgeworld is costly as hell. <br /> <br /> But this army is going to be a bit before i buy maybe they will release resin trolls since there are still old metal ones for Orks and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WOC</span>.<br /> <br /> <font color='orange'>Side Talk:</font><br /> <br /> -Fixed-<br /> <br /> So stats go to <br /> <br /> <font color='yellow'>M</font>: 6 <br /> <font color='yellow'>Original</font> (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span>: 3)<font color='yellow'> Modified</font> (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span>: 9)<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>: 0<br /> <font color='yellow'>S</font>: 7<br /> <font color='yellow'>T</font>: 5<br /> <font color='yellow'>W</font>: 5<br /> <font color='yellow'>I</font>: 3<br /> <font color='yellow'>A</font>: 4<br /> <font color='yellow'>Original</font> (<font color='yellow'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span></font>:5) <font color='yellow'>Modified </font>(<font color='yellow'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span></font>:9)<br /> <br /> Extra Claws gives 2 more attacks at Strength 5 which is not bad to put him upt 6 attacks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:28:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ah, I did think after I posted it if that was nurgle that gave fear! <br /> I'd probably stick with hatred as those rerolls will be useful because forsaken are only <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> 4 and trolls/ogres are all WS3. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> On another note, fear is pretty good with the slaanesh spell that makes them roll <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(2);'>3d6</span> and use the highest 2 plus <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(570);'>ASL</span>. Making you hit on 3's before they even hit back on 5's is great fun ;-)<br /> But still probably not as good as hatred especially with all those trolls! <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Also yeah, I did wonder what you would use as trolls.. The river trolls would make cool nurgle ones. If not I'm a bit stumped, the chaos ones would cost a fortune!<br /> <br /> By the way regarding the slaughter brute, you have to bind it to one character for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> values, so it would either have 9 and 9 respectively or 5 and 8.  Throgg only confers his <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>ld</span> from the crown if it would normally be lower, so bind him to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>. <br /> But to me the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> might well die before Throgg (you want Throgg to survive for his <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>ld</span> to trolls so keep him safe!) probably one you're going to want to just test out... You really don't want that slaughter brute going mad!! ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You would be better served by manticores then by those rare monsters.<br /> Your wizard should have a shield.<br /> <br /> That is all.<br /> <br /> -Matt]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thank you on the shield I knew I forgot something. As for Manticores they cannot just be taken, the only way would be as a mount. Unless I dropped the rares and adjusted for two exalted riding Manticores.<br /> <br /> Edit:<br /> <br /> Wait never mind I forgot Manticore is not an option for Exalted Hero.<br /> <br /> But a variant using Chaos Lord riding a Manticore might be better off than a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>.<br /> <br /> Below is the Chaos Lord w/ Manticore Variant.<br /> <br /> -------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Total</b>:</font> 2996<br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Lords:</b></font> (Total: 525)<br /> <font color='orange'>Chaos Lord on Manticore (525)</font> - Manticore Iron Hard Skin, Venom Tail. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span>. GOC Burning Body, Soul Feeder. Item, Sword of Swift Slaying, Armour of Silvered Steel, Talisman of Endurance.<br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Heroes:</b></font> (Total: 420)<br /> <font color='orange'>Chaos Sorcerer (225)</font> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>LVL</span> 2. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MOT</span> & Lore. Disc & Third Eye of Tzeentch. Items Dispell Scroll, Enchanted Shield<br /> <font color='orange'>Throgg (195)</font> - Will be with Chaos Ogres<br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Core:</b></font> (Total: 894)<br /> <font color='orange'>Troll</font> x 6 (228) AHW<br /> <font color='orange'>Troll</font> x 6 (228) AHW<br /> <font color='orange'>Troll</font> x 6 (228) AHW<br /> <font color='orange'>Forsaken</font> x 10 (210) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span><br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Special:</b></font> (Total: 705)<br /> <font color='orange'>Chaos Ogres</font> x 15 (705) Full Command, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span><br /> <br /> <font color='olive'><b>Rare: </b></font> (Total: 452)<br /> <font color='orange'>Dragon Ogre Shaggoth (227)</font> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span><br /> <font color='orange'>Slaughterbrute (225) </font>Extra Claws - Linked to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Remember Manticores don't get a ward save, so one cannon shot will hit the monster on 1-4, has to wound on a 2+ and then only needs a 4+ on multiple wounds to take it out in turn one :S<br /> <br /> I think he may have meant Chimerae though, they are pretty damn good, 245pts with regen and flying and pretty good in combat. (plus half the real world money of slaughterbrutes!!)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would only run manticore against people I know would have no heavy in their list.<br /> <br /> Basically an alternative for friends. My first list is my favorite.<br /> <br /> The Chimera would be a replacement for the Ogre Shaggoth and possibly a better choice but a full upgraded Chimera is 290 vs 227 for the Shaggoth. <br /> <br /> <br /> The list would change as such.<br /> <br /> Drop all Forsaken, The ogre Shaggoth & Slaughter Brute.<br /> <br /> Bring in two fully upgraded Chimera (Regenerating Flesh, Flaming Breath, Venomous Ooze) & add 2 trolls for a 8 unit replacing a 6.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I ran this kind of list prior to the new book. It is a lot of fun, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>. Post up how it does once you try it <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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