http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net IG list. I am trying to create a list that will be strong against this list but is still a TAC list.

The Imperial Guard

HQ – 110 Points
CCS – 110 points
X3 Plasma Gun
Regimental Standard
Troops – 620 Points

Platoon A – 320 Points
PCS - 50 Points
X4 Flamer
Infantry Squad 1 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Infantry Squad 2 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Infantry Squad 3 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Heavy Weapons Squad 1 - 75 points
X3 Autocannon

Platoon B - 320 Points
PCS - 50 Points
X4 Flamer
Infantry Squad 1 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Infantry Squad 2 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Infantry Squad 3 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Heavy Weapons Squad 1 - 75 points
X3 Autocannon

Fast Attack – 260 Points
Vendetta – 130 Points
Vendetta – 130 Points

Heavy Support - 490 Points
Leman Russ Battle Tank - 150 Points
Heavy Flamer
Leman Russ Battle Tank – 150 Points
Heavy Flamer
Manticore - 190 Points
Heavy Bolter. Camo netting

These are the two Ork lists.

LIST A

HQ (265)
- Big Mek w/ Kustome Force Field
- Wazdakka Gutsmek

Elites (270)
- 9x Lootas
- 9x Lootas

Troops (744)
- 7x Warbikers w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
- 7x Warbikers w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
- 19x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
- 20x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole

Heavy Support (230)
- Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota
- Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota

LIST B

HQ (200)
- Big Mek w/ Kustome Force Field
- Warboss w/ Twin-Linked Shoota, Power Klaw, Cybork Armour, Attack Squig

Elites (295)
-5x Nobz w/ 5x Big Choppa, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota
Troops (742)
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 19x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole

Heavy Support (325)
- Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota
- Looted Wagon w/ Boomgun
- Looted Wagon w/ Boomgun

The Warboss is attached to the Nobz in the dedicated Battlewagon.
I am open to all suggestions,]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5316950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5316950.page GMT ap 2 as well. Just some thoughts.

Oh I like the second list better I think the Auto cannons will eat the bikers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317070.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317070.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317091.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317091.page GMT
Unfortionatly those looted wagons are going to die to his autocannons, do you have something else to use? Like maybe a another wagon with Burnas or MANZ?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317186.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317186.page GMT cc with them with ANYTHING IG is a bad idea, even platoons. It looks like he has enough firepower to eat up every trukk you've got and then murder it's contents, which could be a problem.

He has a limited amount of AP2, given the one squad with three PGs and the single Manticore, but that Manticore alone can waste whatever counter you bring with one shot. Granted it only has four shots, but there's a possible 12 strength 10 ap2 large blasts there. Chances are he'll FRFSRF you if you footslog up to the platoons and FoMT the autocannons if you bother running the bikes within range. The LRBTs are something you need to worry about too, the 72" str8 ap3 large blasts will chew up anything that isn't in cover, so there are two big pieces of his army that need to die quickly.

I like the second list as a counter honestly, haul ass as fast as possible with the trukks and smash his gunline, use the Warboss and Nobz to eat his heavy support. The Vendettas you may have to either ignore, or consider a decent firebase to deal with, either way there are going to be a few destroyed trukks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317245.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317245.page GMT IG with them the second list is the list I would take. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317262.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317262.page GMT
This guy has a lot of infantry, thus making it a good idea for bikes with their dakkaguns. Shootaboys are also a great idea.

I have to say, list two looks better due to numbers and the Av14. You have two boomguns for clearing infantry while all those boys can clean up the rest. Shootaboys ride in their wagon and shoot up any opposing force.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317558.page GMT So I have learned that he has revised his list he will be bringing, the IG list is now this.

HQ (70pts)
Company Command Squad
Company Commander, Regimental Standard

Troops (670pts)
Infantry Platoon (335)
Heavy Weapons Squad
3x Lascannon
Infantry Squad
Autocannon, Sergeant
Infantry Squad
Autocannon, Sergeant
Infantry Squad
Lascannon, Sergeant
Platoon Command Squad
2x Flamer, Platoon Commander

Infantry Platoon (335pts)
Heavy Weapons Squad
3x Lascannon
Infantry Squad
Autocannon, Sergeant
Infantry Squad
Autocannon, Sergeant
Infantry Squad
Lascannon, Sergeant
Platoon Command Squad
2x Flamer, Platoon Commander

Fast Attack (260pts)
Vendetta Gunship Squadron
Vendetta
3x Twin-linked Lascannons
Vendetta Gunship Squadron
Vendetta (130pts)
3x Twin-linked Lascannons

Heavy Support (430pts)
Manticore Rocket Launcher
Ordnance Battery
Medusa
Heavy Bolter
Ordnance Battery
Medusa
Heavy Bolter

Aegis Defense Line w/ Comm Relay (70)

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317684.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317684.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317758.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317758.page GMT av 14 which is good but added more ap 2 and str 9 weapons, almost as if he was reading this RIGHT NOW

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317768.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317768.page GMT Automatically Appended Next Post:
I have room to fit 9 Lootas or a Dakkajet or 3 Deffkoptas w/ Twin-Linked Rokkits in this list as well.

HQ (195)
- Big Mek w/ Kustome Force Field
- Warboss w/ Mega Armour, Cybork Body
Elites (315)
- 5x Mega Nobz
Dedicated Transport: Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota
Troops (742)
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 19x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Heavy Support (115)
- Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317784.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509485/5317784.page GMT