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Honour Guard x6 w/ 2x Power Axes, 3x Power Mauls, Champion w/ Power Axe and Relic Blade, Banner in LasPlas Razorback= 335
Honour Guard x6 w/ 2x Power Axes, 3x Power Mauls, Champion w/ Power Axe and Relic Blade, in LasPlas Razorback= 310
Honour Guard x5 w/ 1x Power Axes, 3x Power Mauls, Champion w/ Power Axe and Relic Blade, in LasPlas Razorback= 275 (Kantor here)
Honour Guard x5 w/ 1x Power Axes, 3x Power Mauls, Champion w/ Power Axe and Relic Blade, Banner in LasPlas Razorback= 300 (Calgar here)


Scout Snipers x5 w/ Camo and Heavy Bolter= 100
Scout Snipers x5 w/ Camo and Heavy Bolter= 100
Scout Snipers x5 w/ Camo and Heavy Bolter= 100


Techmarine= 50

Total= 1995

I don't expect it to be mad competitive - especially with no anti-flyer - but what does Dakka think?
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But as a competitive army? No.

The shooting firepower is limited, 4 las/plas razorbacks and some scouts wont kill a lot.

Any decent CC unit will kill the honour guard too, especially if they have invunerables. Also relic blades have a single profile from the FAQ. S6 AP3 only.
And they cannot assault out of transports any more hurts this tactics too.

Kantor brings nothing to this list (except more honour guard). If you really want honour guard 3 is plenty and use the other450 points to get some support.

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Honour Guard tend to ably kill GK and any other MEQ's whilst being a reasonable threat to Termies. Although Monstrous Creatures will bog them down, though that's what Calgar is for . Not being able to charge does kill this army, but they do have bolters .

I do want it to be competitive at a casual level. (If that makes sense)

Termie Armoured Calgar= 260


Honour Guard x6 w/ 2x Power Axes, 3x Power Mauls, Champion w/ Power Axe and Relic Blade, in Drop Pod= 270
Honour Guard x6 w/ 2x Power Axes, 3x Power Mauls, Champion w/ Power Axe and Relic Blade, in Drop Pod= 270
Honour Guard x6 w/ 2x Power Axes, 3x Power Mauls, Champion w/ Power Axe and Relic Blade, Banner in Drop Pod= 295 (Calgar here)


Scout Snipers x5 w/ Camo and Heavy Bolter= 100
Scout Snipers x5 w/ Camo and Heavy Bolter= 100
Scout Snipers x5 w/ Camo and Heavy Bolter= 100


Dreadnought w/ Multi Melta and Heavy Flamer in Drop Pod= 150
Dreadnought w/ Multi Melta and Heavy Flamer in Drop Pod= 150
Dreadnought w/ Multi Melta and Heavy Flamer in Drop Pod= 150


Stormtalon w/ Typhoons= 155

Total= 2000

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You don't want Pedro because you lose Calgar's chapter tactics (which is by far the best thing you got going for you), you can just get a chapter banner in one of your squads and add a chapter master (it you absolutely wanted the xtra orbital bombardment) to get the same result.

But back to my first point, you've got 15 scoring bodies that will die very quickly with a couple of flamers (insert Helldrake here ) and beyond that, 4 AV11 transports that won't last much past turn 1 and 22 honor guards that have no answer to the plasma meta that's been the trend lately.

So unless you have a specific enemy that you have this list planned for, I don't see it doing anything wonderful for you. A couple of tactical squads with plasma gun and plasma cannon will punch a big gaping hole in that list...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509668/5319919.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509668/5319919.page GMT And you can use the drop pods to block lines of sight too.

However as pointed out above 15 scouts can have problems surviving, as there are a number of cover ignoring units around.

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