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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Vulkan<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> Tactical <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, Flamer, Combiflamer<br /> 5 Scouts Camo sniper<br /> 5 Scouts Camo sniper<br /> <br /> Heavy<br /> 3x Stormravens <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> Hurrican Bolters<br /> <br /> Fast<br /> 3x Stormtalons 2 w/ missiles 1 stock<br /> <br /> Elite<br /> 2x 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> Terminators<br /> <br /> Thoughts?  I think the 6 flyers provide some great synergy with each other.  The 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> squads provide some great <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> punch and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad in a raven provides late game objective grabbing.  By no means unbeatable but I think this is a solid list.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Troop choices are weak. This would be an easily gimped army. It does have some fantastic damage output, on the other hand.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Many flyers or not, this can be easily countered by masses of footsloggin' like ork boyz army. objective games etc-]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Why even use Vul'Kan the army doesn't get anything from him except a 2 flamers/1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>mm</span> and the termies. Also the army could be tabled before your fliers show up. If not all your troops will be dead at least by turn 1.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:51:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How do you intend to deploy your troops? Whats gonna be on the table? This list has some problems. If Vulkan goes in a raven than one squad of terms is gonna have to be deployed on the table. Is Vulkan gonna be sitting on the table turn one with a scout squad?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:01:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Deployment is fairly simple if you play with the correct amount of terrain, including some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> blocking terrain.<br /> <br /> 2 scout squads deploy on the table with Vulkan in one, or 2 scout squads plus the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad deploy.  With the Camo cloaks, and again the right amount of terrain, the Scouts should survive easily enough.  I currently play a flyer heavy Necron army so I know the procedures for this type of list to succeed inside and out.<br /> <br /> Once the flyers are in Maximum Threat Overload will kick in, occupying my opponent long enough to keep the remaining troops safe.  Conversely the Stormraven(s) could always pick up those units later in the game if need be.<br /> <br /> It certainly has counters.  Large footslogging armies will pose an issue and I need to look hard at that.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:26:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Little low on starting bodies, isn't it?  If you mount the Terminators, you're really vulnerable to a first round kill.  If they're deployed, then they're doing the walk of shame and probably not contributing too much to the fight.  If the Termies and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad are in Ravens, you're starting w/ 2 deployed Scout squads.  Even w/ Camo Cloaks, that seems a bit optimistic to hope for survival.  Also, is Vulkan really helping out that much?  The Ravens' multimeltas are already twin-linked, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> termies already crunch most stuff without mastercrafting.<br /> <br /> How about:<br /> <br /> Librarian<br /> 10x Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield Terminators<br /> <br /> 3x 5 man Scouts (Raven-carried scoring units)<br /> 1x 5 man Sniper Scout w/ Cloaks (or Tactical squad) as backfield objective holder. <br /> Aegis + CommRelay<br /> <br /> 3x StormTalons w/ Skyhammers<br /> 3x StormRavens w/ Plascannons, Multimeltas, and Hurricane Bolters<br /> <br /> Deploy Librarian + Termie brick and have the Sniper Scouts man the CommRelay.  Termies can either press forward, defend the Scouts, or combat squad as need be.  Hold the line and wait for the Air Force to sweep in and murder everything.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:26:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/510579/5333797.page"><b>spmusubi wrote:</b></a><br/>Little low on starting bodies, isn't it?  If you mount the Terminators, you're really vulnerable to a first round kill.  If they're deployed, then they're doing the walk of shame and probably not contributing too much to the fight.  If the Termies and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad are in Ravens, you're starting w/ 2 deployed Scout squads.  Even w/ Camo Cloaks, that seems a bit optimistic to hope for survival.  Also, is Vulkan really helping out that much?  The Ravens' multimeltas are already twin-linked, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> termies already crunch most stuff without mastercrafting.<br /> <br /> How about:<br /> <br /> Librarian<br /> 10x Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield Terminators<br /> <br /> 3x 5 man Scouts (Raven-carried scoring units)<br /> 1x 5 man Sniper Scout w/ Cloaks (or Tactical squad) as backfield objective holder. <br /> Aegis + CommRelay<br /> <br /> 3x StormTalons w/ Skyhammers<br /> 3x StormRavens w/ Plascannons, Multimeltas, and Hurricane Bolters<br /> <br /> Deploy Librarian + Termie brick and have the Sniper Scouts man the CommRelay.  Termies can either press forward, defend the Scouts, or combat squad as need be.  Hold the line and wait for the Air Force to sweep in and murder everything.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Ya.  I like that better!  I may have to try this list out for real.  Makes me cringe to think of buying that many Stormravens though...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:40:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ OverwatchCNC]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My thoughts would be to loosen up a little on the Storm Ravens and Storm Talos... Go with 2 of each.<br /> <br /> To fit your theme how about a bit of alpha strike?  Add a Drop Pod and Landspeeder Storm with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>.  <br /> <br /> Now expand your scouts.  5-man w Sgt w combi-melta.  2 more 5-man scout squads with sniper rifles.<br /> <br /> Replace your terminators with combi-melta sternguard. 3 units.<br /> <br /> Tactical to drop from storm raven as well as 2 sternguard.  1 Sternguard to drop in on drop pod.  3 5-man scout elements to defend and hold backline objects.  1 5-man scout and speeder storm to provide an alpha strike.<br /> <br /> Then either Pedro or Vulkan... both provide you with benefits.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:43:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DAaddict]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/510579/5333864.page"><b>DAaddict wrote:</b></a><br/>My thoughts would be to loosen up a little on the Storm Ravens and Storm Talos... Go with 2 of each.<br /> <br /> To fit your theme how about a bit of alpha strike?  Add a Drop Pod and Landspeeder Storm with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>.  <br /> <br /> Now expand your scouts.  5-man w Sgt w combi-melta.  2 more 5-man scout squads with sniper rifles.<br /> <br /> Replace your terminators with combi-melta sternguard. 3 units.<br /> <br /> Tactical to drop from storm raven as well as 2 sternguard.  1 Sternguard to drop in on drop pod.  3 5-man scout elements to defend and hold backline objects.  1 5-man scout and speeder storm to provide an alpha strike.<br /> <br /> Then either Pedro or Vulkan... both provide you with benefits.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Hmmm, provide a list? <br /> <br /> Nit being lazy, I loaned my book out to my bro so I can't whip one up myself  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:51:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Are you going to bring this mess to the April tourney Overwatch?<br /> I'll be at a friend's wedding but if you show up with half the imperial navy I'm sure i'll be able to hear the crying all the way across southern california<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:54:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tuff Love]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c4696bfd534720e3965d84b2356792dc.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/510579/5333907.page"><b>Tuff Love wrote:</b></a><br/>Are you going to bring this mess to the April tourney Overwatch?<br /> I'll be at a friend's wedding but if you show up with half the imperial navy I'm sure i'll be able to hear the crying all the way across southern california<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Ha!  No, April's tournament is 1500.  <br /> <br /> You know how I enjoy the tears of my enemies. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:58:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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