TanKoL wrote:
To be honest, psylencers don't need fixing, it's psycannons that do
Why take anything else when you got such an impressive and relatively cheap weapon ?

 motyak wrote:
Maybe just 4+ against units which are psykers, to stop it trashing units which it wouldn't have any reason to be good against (Tyrgons/Mawlocs/Fex's) while helping against a wider variety of units than the current 'just daemons'. Gives it more of a reason to be taken.

Str 4 otherwise or something, 6 on the gatling psilencer maybe

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
We had a thread about this during 5th. The one idea I liked the most was making it AP2 and upping the cost by quite a bit, at least on Terminators and Paladins. The Psycannon already has everything else pretty much covered.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Here's a thought: Keep it as it is, but make it Heavy 18. It's still only something like 4 dead Orks (or 1.5 Space Marines), but at least it'd almost sorta do something.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Psycannons are strong because they have to be. Its literally the only thing GKs have to take out tanks outside of melee or the odd lascannon.

Dantioch wrote:
If you play against daemons as you should with GK the psilencers are great as you can cut down swathes through lesser daemons, or any other horde unit, and take multiple wounds of Greater ones at a good range so acording to me it doesn't need fixing, at least not the gatling psilencer. And 24 S4 shots that ignores line of sight for 140 points is pretty good.

Rumbleguts wrote:

Dantioch wrote:
If you play against daemons as you should with GK the psilencers are great as you can cut down swathes through lesser daemons, or any other horde unit, and take multiple wounds of Greater ones at a good range so acording to me it doesn't need fixing, at least not the gatling psilencer. And 24 S4 shots that ignores line of sight for 140 points is pretty good.

This does seem like a opponent specific weapon and reasonable. If it needs an upgrade, then it should be upgraded to make it more effective against daemons, such as reduce their invunrable save, or even elimnate it. But it shouldn't be better against regular, or even psychic, opponents.

 McNinja wrote:

Rumbleguts wrote:

Dantioch wrote:
If you play against daemons as you should with GK the psilencers are great as you can cut down swathes through lesser daemons, or any other horde unit, and take multiple wounds of Greater ones at a good range so acording to me it doesn't need fixing, at least not the gatling psilencer. And 24 S4 shots that ignores line of sight for 140 points is pretty good.

This does seem like a opponent specific weapon and reasonable. If it needs an upgrade, then it should be upgraded to make it more effective against daemons, such as reduce their invunrable save, or even elimnate it. But it shouldn't be better against regular, or even psychic, opponents.

In a tournament where you don't actually know who you'll be playing, it's not a good investment. If you schedule a game a day in advance and you know you'll be fighting daemons, go for it, but other than that it has no place on a TAC list.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Psycannons are strong because they have to be. Its literally the only thing GKs have to take out tanks outside of melee or the odd lascannon.

 Grey Templar wrote:
That doesn't make it broken.

It just means they are slightly one dimensional.

But the Psycannon is appropriatly priced for what it does.