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Does anyone else find problems with chainswords or other weapons that do the same thing?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440443.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440443.page GMT Chainsword useless? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440450.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440450.page GMT Re:Chainsword useless? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440455.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440455.page GMT Chainsword useless? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440459.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440459.page GMT Chainsword useless?
Plus they are being used in quite a lot of armies such as space marines, csm, guard, sisters, eldar striking scorpions (although the eldar ones do grant + 1 strength) and even some ork models I think.

That is a lot of units that have to remember an additional stat or ap change for no good reason imo.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440466.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440466.page GMT Chainsword useless? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440540.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440540.page GMT Chainsword useless?
Big Choppa adds +2 str. but requires 2 hands so it isn't really in the same league as "it is similar therefore it must behave a certain way". each race has certain weapons that they prefer. some races get benefits because they have a lower overall stat line. but as others have said things will change, when the time comes. (it might even change for chain swords idk prob won't return to 2nd edition cheese that i am quite sure of)

@ Griddlelol: that is the best suggestion i have heard on the matter]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440603.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440603.page GMT Chainsword useless? +1 to coolness as been already said]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440611.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440611.page GMT Chainsword useless? CCW?

I could ask "What's the point of a Choppa?". You can't get Dual wielded pistols that often, and for the CC advantage it's definitely worth taking one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440615.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440615.page GMT Re:Chainsword useless?
 Cypherus wrote:
But there is no point giving space marines this weapon. Just give than a boltgun or a pair of boltpistols. Why should I give my guys some chainswords if they don't do anything


You can't give them two bolt pistols because the codex says you can't. You can't just go slapping different wargear to your models and saying that they have that now. VERY FEW models from the C:SM have access to a dual pistol loadout.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440618.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440618.page GMT Chainsword useless? PP, or dual PP), Assault Marines (BP+PP), Vanguard vets.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5440666.page GMT Chainsword useless? CC weapon had a different profile, which was a bit of a pig to keep track of (including things like broken bottles). Then everything was amalgamated into simple classes of weapons to simplify things and we are now in the process of going through more specialised weapons again, so its possible that in 7th ed chainswords will again have a dedicated strength value.

Until that happens, chainswords are just fancy looking sticks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5441957.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5441957.page GMT Chainsword useless?
TanKoL wrote:
you can make VRRRMMM VRRMMMM noises and sickening butcher shop sounds after that


Can't argue with this.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5442057.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5442057.page GMT Chainsword useless? SM and the IoM. I can see how one would think it should have something over a regular sword though. Although I have thought of using extra runic/power swords instead as I like the looks. Just don't know if people would whine about it. I don't think my area would. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5442134.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5442134.page GMT Chainsword useless? CC slightly.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5442214.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5442214.page GMT Re:Chainsword useless? OP, the idea isn't hitting your enemy with a bolt pistol, it's shooting him point blank I think.

As has been pointed out in previous posts on this subject, most races have sort of fluffy weapon that is not quite reflected in the fluff, this is largely due to game balance. I personally would rather them not change in order to reduce the amount of special rules. And after all, in the 41st millennium a large chainsaw is probably somewhat of a baseline for close combat weapons, considering that one of the weakest guns in the game shoots lasers.

Or if that doesn't do it for you, you can imagine that everyone in W40K wheres this stuff: http://www.stihlusa.com/products/protective-and-work-wear/chain-saw-protective-apparel/]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5442405.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5442405.page GMT Chainsword useless? CC for having an extra close combat attack from having another CC weapon and/or pistol.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5442665.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5442665.page GMT Re:Chainsword useless? CC weapon, and always hit with Str4, so was a boon to low-strength troops like Eldar. Also, unlike non sword-type weapons like axes and hammers, you could also "parry" with it, which was a special (and important) ability of certain CC weapons in both 2nd edition and Necromunda. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5443053.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5443053.page GMT Re:Chainsword useless?
 greyknight12 wrote:
Well, to the OP, the idea isn't hitting your enemy with a bolt pistol, it's shooting him point blank I think.

As has been pointed out in previous posts on this subject, most races have sort of fluffy weapon that is not quite reflected in the fluff, this is largely due to game balance. I personally would rather them not change in order to reduce the amount of special rules. And after all, in the 41st millennium a large chainsaw is probably somewhat of a baseline for close combat weapons, considering that one of the weakest guns in the game shoots lasers.

Or if that doesn't do it for you, you can imagine that everyone in W40K wheres this stuff: http://www.stihlusa.com/products/protective-and-work-wear/chain-saw-protective-apparel/

This, giving them a buff would hurt the game balance imho.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5443072.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5443072.page GMT Chainsword useless?
AP 6]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5443604.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5443604.page GMT Re:Chainsword useless?
 greyknight12 wrote:
Well, to the OP, the idea isn't hitting your enemy with a bolt pistol, it's shooting him point blank I think.

As has been pointed out in previous posts on this subject, most races have sort of fluffy weapon that is not quite reflected in the fluff, this is largely due to game balance. I personally would rather them not change in order to reduce the amount of special rules. And after all, in the 41st millennium a large chainsaw is probably somewhat of a baseline for close combat weapons, considering that one of the weakest guns in the game shoots lasers.


Just saying it would be nice to have some form of benefit like +1 str or toughness or something.


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Sorry to double post
karandras15 wrote:Easy fix- -

AP 6


Certainly better than nothing

juraigamer wrote:The only point to having a chainsword currently is to gain +1 attack in CC for having an extra close combat attack from having another CC weapon and/or pistol.



I overlooked that. Slight benefits like these are good so weapons aren't completely useless
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karandras15 wrote:
Easy fix- -

AP 6



Thanks, My T-shirt saves became even less useful

Leave them as they are and accept that it is for cool not for game benefit.

It's free...quit yer whining!

The last thing Sm need is +1 S or T.

Orks could use +1 S base, since their biceps are bigger than SM HEADS, but in the name of game balance this won't happen ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5443810.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/516908/5443810.page GMT