<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Dark Eldar Splinter Shots/Cost"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Dark Eldar Splinter Shots/Cost
10 Kabalite Warriors + Splinter Cannon = 110
Raider = 60
With that unit, you get 6 shots at 36"-25", 15 shots at 24"-13", and 24 shots at 12" all for 170 points

3 Kabalite Trueborn + 2 Splinter Cannons = 56
Venom + Splinter Cannon = 65
With this setup, you get 24 shots at 36"-25" range, 25 shots at 24"-13", and 26 at 12", this time for a mere 121 points

Of course, taking the venom means you lose a dark lance, but if we say dark lances are 35 points each (since you get 3 on a ravager for 105), you're still upgrading your range significantly and saving 14 (170 - 121 - 35) points by taking the trueborn.
This makes Kabalite Warriors essentially useless in fully competitive games... so why would GW do this?

[Edit] Army List: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/517904.page]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5456904.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5456904.page GMT Dark Eldar Splinter Shots/Cost http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5456909.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5456909.page GMT Dark Eldar Splinter Shots/Cost I almost never take units outside a transport with DE though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5456914.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5456914.page GMT Dark Eldar Splinter Shots/Cost And take into account utilising splinter racks on the raider, for sure you can get more long range shots out there but when you consider within the 12'' the raider set up is going to be causing many more wounds than the venom, at with the hit re rolls really negate the sub par BS.

Don't have codex on me, but later today will try doing some probability maths.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5457117.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5457117.page GMT Re:Dark Eldar Splinter Shots/Cost
I guess if you're taking a full squad, they can be more useful.
I almost never take units outside a transport with DE though.


You should. Dark Eldar Warriors numbering 15-20 behind an Aegis are amazing. DE transports are even more fragile in 6th and much more harmful to the passengers. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5457576.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5457576.page GMT Dark Eldar Splinter Shots/Cost http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5457685.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5457685.page GMT Dark Eldar Splinter Shots/Cost http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5457995.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5457995.page GMT Dark Eldar Splinter Shots/Cost
 Nem wrote:
You need to take into account if your actually going to move the venom (Losing heavy profile on trueborn cannons I believe??)
And take into account utilising splinter racks on the raider, for sure you can get more long range shots out there but when you consider within the 12'' the raider set up is going to be causing many more wounds than the venom, at with the hit re rolls really negate the sub par BS.

Don't have codex on me, but later today will try doing some probability maths.



Wow, I've been playing like passengers in vehicles can fire as if they haven't moved (unless the vehicle moved flat out, in which case they can't shoot).
I guess that makes a trueborn venom quite a lot worse than I had thought.


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Here's the mathhammer for a Venom of 3 trueborn (4 cannons) vs. a Raider with 10 Warriors (1 cannon and 9 rifles)...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsHUC2L3fE_ndHJtQk02ejdUaTFlVXpTZFFQR2l6aGc&usp=sharing

As you can see, even with splinter racks and penalties for moving, the elites reign supreme. The troops win at 12" range... but I, for one, feel pretty sketchy about my raiders getting that close to anything.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5459759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/517903/5459759.page GMT Dark Eldar Splinter Shots/Cost
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