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				<description><![CDATA[ hello<br /> A small group of use are just about to start a slow grow army build.<br /> i have decide on ogre kingdoms,and was wondering what would be my best 500pts start<br /> i have looked in the army book ,and this is my list<br /> 1x ogre fire belly<br /> 4x bulls with iron fist,standard,bellower.<br /> 3x iron guts<br /> 2x leadblechers<br /> dont want to take gnoblars as dont like the models <br /> does anyone out there want to try to help me make a better one<br /> i will be facing 2 chaos warrior,skaven,dark elf,empire,tomb kings,vamp counts<br /> please give it a go if you have time before i spend the cash<br /> thanks and cheers]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 8 Apr 2013 21:00:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ stompawompa]]></author>
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				<title>Re:new to warhammer fantasy &quot;what would be your perfect 500pts ogre kingdoms&quot;</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Why o why do people insist at playing such low points? <img src="/s/i/a/dec8d79950a36218cfae9200a43fa59f.gif" border="0"> 1000 is where Fantasy should be started.<br /> <br /> /rant<br /> <br /> <br /> Ok, looks decent for what little options us ogres have at such low points. Firebellys are brutal at low points for sure.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 8 Apr 2013 21:14:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grey Templar]]></author>
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				<title>Re:new to warhammer fantasy &quot;what would be your perfect 500pts ogre kingdoms&quot;</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/fd773213115fe4000f0e1f3ad76512f1.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/519377/5481370.page"><b>Grey Templar wrote:</b></a><br/>Why o why do people insist at playing such low points? <img src="/s/i/a/dec8d79950a36218cfae9200a43fa59f.gif" border="0"> 1000 is where Fantasy should be started.<br /> <br /> /rant<br /> <br /> <br /> Ok, looks decent for what little options us ogres have at such low points. Firebellys are brutal at low points for sure.</div></blockquote><br /> Firebelly, saber tusks and iron guts.<br /> When you can get enough points in rares, add iron blaster.<br /> -Matt]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 9 Apr 2013 00:06:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ HawaiiMatt]]></author>
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				<title>Re:new to warhammer fantasy &quot;what would be your perfect 500pts ogre kingdoms&quot;</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the imput<br /> we are starting at a low points value because the group is all at different levels<br /> and at 500pts this will stop the more "win at all cost players" ruining the experience for the rest of us <br /> by kicking are butts and putting us off continuing with the slow grow army build<br /> cheers <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:38:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ stompawompa]]></author>
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				<title>Re:new to warhammer fantasy &quot;what would be your perfect 500pts ogre kingdoms&quot;</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/519377/5484533.page"><b>stompawompa wrote:</b></a><br/>Thanks for the imput<br /> we are starting at a low points value because the group is all at different levels<br /> and at 500pts this will stop the more "win at all cost players" ruining the experience for the rest of us <br /> by kicking are butts and putting us off continuing with the slow grow army build<br /> cheers <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Actually, I find the opposite at 500 points.<br /> A lot of armies are going to get 1 character, and 3 tiny units.  <br /> The games can be so stupidly short, they are no fun.<br /> <br /> Take ogres for example.<br /> At 500 points you get<br /> Fire Belly with extra hand weapon<br /> 7 Ironguts with full command and Gleaming Pendant (re-roll <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span> test, 1 use)<br /> 2 units of 1 sabre tusks<br /> <br /> At 500 points, you can make death stars, but you can't take solutions to them (enough redirecters, powerful magic, or significant warmachines)<br /> <br /> -Matt]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:59:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ HawaiiMatt]]></author>
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