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That armour saves can be taken against dangerous terrain doesn't mean anything against vehicles, and with glancing hits now stripping hull points, it's possible for the spinner to be a bit better against them, but not a whole lot. Against vehicles, Spinners stayed the same, really.

Against infantry, neither vehicle changed much, but the spinner lost out through DT now allowing armour saves. Now slapping a blast marker on a squad of slogging marines isn't as effective, but guard, orks, and tyranids will still suffer (less so than last edition, but a 5+ or 6+ save still won't save as many by far as a marine's 3+).

Rending didn't change, so you can try and slice through some armour with it, and combined with Doom could make for some painful attacks. The Spinner, being barrage, can also completely ignore an opponent's aegis, so can make for some surprising results when dropped on a hiding guard platoon. Suddenly they don't have their 4+ cover and are relying on 5+ flak armour.

I'd say the decision still depends on your local meta and is still largely personal choice (my experiences with Spinners were rubbish, and combined with the fact that I think the Fire Prism is much cooler, it made my choice a little easier).

Best answer is to probably try each one out for a few games and see which you prefer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/520123/5493735.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/520123/5493735.page GMT

Thank you for the replies! I'll try them both out and see what happens... Personally I like the ideaof a nighthunter above a vaporiser, but then, that's just me doing a dark coloured army (making my own Craftworld that strikes at night...)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/520123/5493883.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/520123/5493883.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/520123/5494269.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/520123/5494269.page GMT