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For those too lazy to look it up, they're +2 Str, 2 handed and AP5.

For the Price of an Attack and an AP point, they do the same job as Power Mauls - they're equal against 2+, 3+ (well, weaker because you do one less attack) to Power Mauls and completely worse at anything higher.

I think any model with a close combat weapon should be able to take them (SM, BA and Wolves I'm working with) - I think they should be between 5 and 10 points, since they are worse than a power maul. They need to be cheaper.

I personally believe 7 points is best - most assault marines right now are 18-ish points, so this makes them 25. It also gives armies an option against light armour in close combat, without wasting AP2 weaponry on them. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/522956/5540263.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/522956/5540263.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/522956/5542488.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/522956/5542488.page GMT