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				<description><![CDATA[ archmage (high lore)<br /> -lvl4<br /> -khaines ring of fury<br /> -scroll<br /> -golden crown of atrazar<br /> <br /> noble<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span><br /> -standard of dicipline<br /> -dragon armour<br /> -hallberd<br /> <br /> archers (19)<br /> -musician<br /> <br /> archers (19)<br /> -musician<br /> <br /> archers (19)<br /> -musician<br /> <br /> tiranoc chariot<br /> <br /> tiranoc chariot<br /> <br /> tiranoc chariot<br /> <br /> white lions (27)<br /> -full command<br /> -banner of the world dragon<br /> <br /> 10 shadow warriors <br /> -champion<br /> <br /> 5 shadow warriors<br /> <br /> 5 shadow warriors<br /> <br /> flamespyre phoenix<br /> <br /> eagle<br /> <br /> eagle<br /> <br /> bolt trower<br /> <br /> bolt trower<br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>how about these high elves? @2400</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ In this kind of list, I think the frost phoenix would benefit the white lions more than the flame one, due to it making everyone <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(570);'>ASL</span>. So all the I5 in the meta currently, AKA HE, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span>, and possibly soon to be <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span>, will be striking after your big block of lions. And I'd consider light and the book on the level 4 to make the unit asf. Possibly. I'm not actually sure how that interaction will work. Someone let me know.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 9 May 2013 21:52:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ thedarkavenger]]></author>
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				<title>how about these high elves? @2400</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0112f3725bccb7d54683e65d441bdcf0.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526129/5600951.page"><b>imperial commander wrote:</b></a><br/>archmage (high lore)<br /> -lvl4<br /> -khaines ring of fury<br /> -scroll<br /> -golden crown of atrazar</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> General archmage requires a permanent ward save. May I suggest talisman of Endurance for 5++, you should be able to boost that to 3++ easily enough via spellcasting.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0112f3725bccb7d54683e65d441bdcf0.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526129/5600951.page"><b>imperial commander wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> noble<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span><br /> -standard of dicipline<br /> -dragon armour<br /> -halberd</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Standard of discipline, why?  In general unless there is a very nice 55+ pt banner in an army list the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> should not be used for a magic banner, the main benefits for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> are in the mundane standard.  Now you need to keep the standard bearer alive, so keep him out of combat or tool him up.  Dragon armour and halberd are fine, a ward save is better.  You could however instead take ring of fury and reaver bow for two nasty distance attacks and hope to avoid direct combat.<br /> If you do take ring of fury you unlock more points to boost the archmage with the book of hoeth.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0112f3725bccb7d54683e65d441bdcf0.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526129/5600951.page"><b>imperial commander wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> archers (19)<br /> -musician<br /> <br /> archers (19)<br /> -musician<br /> <br /> archers (19)<br /> -musician</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I prefer pointy sticks, but each to their own.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0112f3725bccb7d54683e65d441bdcf0.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526129/5600951.page"><b>imperial commander wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> tiranoc chariot<br /> <br /> tiranoc chariot<br /> <br /> tiranoc chariot</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Too many, you need one per melee block you send in to add additional weight on the charge turn.  Use something else to redirect.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0112f3725bccb7d54683e65d441bdcf0.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526129/5600951.page"><b>imperial commander wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> white lions (27)<br /> -full command<br /> -banner of the world dragon</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Nice, to make the most of this you need a way of getting irconcurse icon and the archmage to be surviably placed here.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0112f3725bccb7d54683e65d441bdcf0.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526129/5600951.page"><b>imperial commander wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> 10 shadow warriors <br /> -champion<br /> <br /> 5 shadow warriors<br /> <br /> 5 shadow warriors</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Overpriced and undereffective.  Take some if you like, but not so many.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0112f3725bccb7d54683e65d441bdcf0.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526129/5600951.page"><b>imperial commander wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> flamespyre phoenix<br /> <br /> eagle<br /> <br /> eagle</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Ok.<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0112f3725bccb7d54683e65d441bdcf0.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526129/5600951.page"><b>imperial commander wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> bolt thrower<br /> <br /> bolt thrower<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I think you need more at the expense of chariots.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 May 2013 02:58:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Orlanth]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> swap the 10 Shadow Warriors for Sisters. Keep the 5s for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(197);'>wm</span> hunting and harassment. <br /> <br /> As suggested het the Wizard a ward save. Or drop a chariot to upgrade the Wizard to Alarielle. Seems tailor made for a big unit of Lions with the Dragon Banner. Though personally <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> get a back up caster, High doesn't really have many big spells to chuck a load of dice at and works better by having lots of spell attempts.<br /> <br /> As suggested above make the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BsB</span> more survivable, also making the switch above gets you Ld10 anyway.<br /> <br /> As suggested by another poster the Frost Phoenix would support the Lions better. But then the Chariots aren't needed...<br /> <br /> In which case drop them for the above suggestions or put them all into 1 unit to give you a 2nd combat unit.<br /> <br /> The biggest issue I have with your list is how you are going to play it against a defensive army. High Magics main damage spells are short ranged which will mean in a ranged war it would be your Archers and Bolt Throwers against his Artillery and Wizard. A battle you will lose. You can try to run interference with the Eagles and Shadow Warriors but the danger is they are just giving up free <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(140);'>VPs</span> and stuff for his shorter ranged stuff to do.<br /> <br /> By having the Archers as core you have most of your army Anchored back field but the rest of the army does not support this. Spear men would work better and support the Lions approach.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ FlingitNow]]></author>
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