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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi All,<br /> <br /> I would love some constructive feedback on my Averlorn/Lothern themed list. Thanks!<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <br /> Everqueen (350) (deploy with Sea Guard)<br /> <br /> Heroes<br /> <br /> Lothern Sea Helm (169) (Deploy with Sea Guard)<br /> 	-Bow, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>, Banner of Averlorn<br /> <br /> Handmaiden of the Everqueen (95) (Deploy with Sisters of Averlorn)<br /> <br /> Handmaiden of the Everqueen (95) (Deploy with Sisters of Averlorn)<br /> <br /> Core<br /> <br /> 5 Ellyrian Reavers (95)<br /> 	-Bows<br /> <br /> 5 Ellyrian Reavers (95)<br /> 	-Bows<br /> <br /> 28 Lothern Sea Guard (366)<br /> 	-Shields, Full Command<br /> <br /> Special  <br /> <br /> Lothern Skycutter (120)<br /> 	-Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower<br /> <br /> Lothern Skycutter (120)<br /> 	-Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower<br /> <br /> Rare<br /> <br /> 14 Sisters of Averlorn (196)<br /> <br /> 14 Sisters of Averlorn (196)<br /> <br /> Great Eagle (50)<br /> <br /> Great Eagle (50)<br /> <br /> Total: 1997<br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>2000 Points HE Army of Averlorn and Lothern Themed List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ It's not a bad list, though you lack a dedicated close combat unit, which could really come back to bite you.<br /> <br /> You could try and find the points to add in a decently sized unit of Swordmasters, in which to put your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> and/or Arielle. Saphery is, after all, inbetween Eataine and Avelorn, so it kinda fits in with your theme.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:2000 Points HE Army of Averlorn and Lothern Themed List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ First of all nice to see another Lothern themed player out there  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">, a few pointers:<br /> <br /> -As mentioned lack of any heavy hitting <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> units will hurt you in alot of your games. If you really want to stick with your Avelorn theme just convert up some female warriors with weapons (seen a cool one using Wood Elf figs and High Elf bits) and run them as White Lions, Sword Masters ect.<br /> <br /> -Bolt throwers are a waste on the Skycutters <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> just because for that same point value you could get a lion chariot which is much nastier. Also in regards to statistics. Unless you just sit there they will need 4+ or 5+ to hit when you take into account moving and long range being anything over 12 inches. If they had the volley fire option then I would but as of now they are not worth it. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 May 2013 21:01:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ gmaleron]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6bd29f08ebf26ed5ea1b84bc90098ad7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526808/5614738.page"><b>gmaleron wrote:</b></a><br/>First of all nice to see another Lothern themed player out there  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">, a few pointers:<br /> <br /> -As mentioned lack of any heavy hitting <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> units will hurt you in alot of your games. If you really want to stick with your Avelorn theme just convert up some female warriors with weapons (seen a cool one using Wood Elf figs and High Elf bits) and run them as White Lions, Sword Masters ect.<br /> <br /> -Bolt throwers are a waste on the Skycutters <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> just because for that same point value you could get a lion chariot which is much nastier. Also in regards to statistics. Unless you just sit there they will need 4+ or 5+ to hit when you take into account moving and long range being anything over 12 inches. If they had the volley fire option then I would but as of now they are not worth it. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The bolt throwers are worth it if you're maxing out shooting.  If you can force the enemy to move at you, the extra 3 bolt shots are nice.<br /> -Matt]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 May 2013 21:54:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm wanting to do a pretty much same list but with a few tweaks.<br /> <br /> The reaver bow + potion of strength is pretty brutal on a hand maiden. I'm testing it in my games at the moment and finding it quite nasty.<br /> <br /> I also run a seahelm <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> + seahelm combat character + handmaiden. And I dont have the eagles or reavers, but I  do have swordmasters. Still working on making it gel nicely without going overboard.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 14 May 2013 00:27:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526808/5614978.page"><b>HawaiiMatt wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> The bolt throwers are worth it if you're maxing out shooting.  If you can force the enemy to move at you, the extra 3 bolt shots are nice.<br /> -Matt</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> If thats the case taking regular bolt throwers are a much better investment. I understand what you are saying in regards to maxing out shooting, however a S5 bolt thrower that for the most part will need 4+ to it due to long range not counting terrain features making a chariot over 120pts. really to me does not seem worth it, just my opinion.  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 14 May 2013 02:02:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ gmaleron]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2000 Points HE Army of Averlorn and Lothern Themed List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6bd29f08ebf26ed5ea1b84bc90098ad7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526808/5615654.page"><b>gmaleron wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526808/5614978.page"><b>HawaiiMatt wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> The bolt throwers are worth it if you're maxing out shooting.  If you can force the enemy to move at you, the extra 3 bolt shots are nice.<br /> -Matt</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> If thats the case taking regular bolt throwers are a much better investment. I understand what you are saying in regards to maxing out shooting, however a S5 bolt thrower that for the most part will need 4+ to it due to long range not counting terrain features making a chariot over 120pts. really to me does not seem worth it, just my opinion.  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> The thing is, it's not an either or choice.  You take the 4 Repeating bolt throwers, and the bolt throwers on the chariots.<br /> I'd bet you're only getting 2 shots before charging at the survivors of the gunline.<br /> <br /> -Matt]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 14 May 2013 04:38:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Edit: Ignore me, I got my WFB and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> mixed up...]]></description>
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