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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi everyone, I just got myself the new Deathwing Command set and was thinking up a list to play around with. I mostly play friendly games with my brother, so I'm not looking for anything super competitive. We almost never play flyers, and I'm usually against Grey Knights, Imperial Guard, and sometimes Chaos <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>. Let me know if you see any big problems and thanks for your input!<br /> <br /> <b>List 1, 1749pt Deathwing:</b><br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:</b><br /> Belial: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> (Or sword depending on how I'm feeling)<br /> Librarian: Terminator Armour, Mastery 2 (Divination)<br /> <br /> Deathwing Command: 355pts<br /> -Champion,<br /> -2 xTH/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>. <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, Std. of Fortitude, <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, Cyclone Missile<br /> <br /> <b>Troops:</b><br /> 2 Deathwing squads: 250pts each<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> Sarge (could go on another due to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>) <br /> -2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, Assault cannon<br /> <br /> Deathwing squad: 294pts each<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> Sarge (could go on another due to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>) <br /> -3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, Assault cannon<br /> <br /> <b>Dedicated Transport:</b><br /> Land Raider Crusader: 280pts<br /> -Deathwing vehicle<br /> 
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</div><br /> There are 7 total units in this army meaning that I can deep strike 4 of them if I want. I'm thinking of having Belial and the command squad in the land raider to move up on the enemy and have the 3 deathwing squads with the librarian teleport in using Belial's teleport homer to stay close together and benefit from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FnP</span> of the banner. <br /> <br /> <b>List 2: 1750pt Doublewing</b><br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:</b><br /> Belial: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> (Or sword depending on how I'm feeling)<br /> Librarian: Terminator Armour, Mastery 2 (Divination)<br /> <br /> Deathwing Command: 345pts<br /> -Champion,<br /> -2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>. <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, Std. of Fortitude, <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, Assault cannon<br /> <br /> <b>Troops:</b><br /> 2 Deathwing squads: 250pts each<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> Sarge (could go on another due to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>) <br /> -2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, Assault cannon<br /> <br /> Deathwing squad: 304pts each<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> Sarge (could go on another due to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>) <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> -2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span>,  Cyclone Missile<br /> <br /> <b>Fast Attack</b><br /> Ravenwing Squad: 155pts<br /> -Sergeant<br /> -2x Meltagun Bikes<br /> -Attack Bike, Multi-melta<br /> <br /> Black Knights: 126pts<br /> -2xBlack Knights<br /> -1x Black Knight, Grenade Launcher<br /> 
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</div><br /> This second list is similar, but has much more versatility in tactics. The ravenwing can be used to move up to utilize their teleport homers to guide in the terminators, and the  grenade launchers, and plasma to soften up a scary enemy unit to make the most of the deathwing's twin linked drop. The melta bikes can be used to pop some vehicles to the termies can get to the insides, or they can hunt heavy infantry or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span>. There are 8 units in this list, so only 4 can deep strike in. I was thinking Belial and the assault command squad along with 1 or 2 of the other terminator squads. The cyclone missile squad and the librarian will deploy by an objective or someplace to allow them to move up the field. <br /> <br /> All of the heavy weapons will be magnetized so I can switch things around as I see fit. (Probably some plasma cannons against other terminators etc.) I've also been playing around with some ideas of a list that has a mortis contemptor with 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> lascannons and a cyclone missile launcher, but since I don't have one of those yet I thought I'd stick to these lists. Any insight on how the mortis contemptor works with deathwing would be appreciated though as I hope to someday get one!<br /> <br /> So that is it! How does it look to all of you? Any suggestions? <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> <br /> Does anyone have any advice on the list? Any help would be greatly appreciated.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the top list, but keep the libby with the command squad and Belial so he can start casting powers on turn 1. <br /> <br /> Seems like a fun <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> list, it's not gonna win you tournaments but it's a fun army to play!<br /> <br /> The second list is not bad but I think the command squad in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> is just an awesome deathstar.<br /> <br /> Enjoy.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like that idea of adding the Librarian to the Land raider group. A command squad like this assaulting from a Land raider with Belial and a Librarian to give them all re-roll to hit would be pretty intense. <br /> <br /> I think I'm going to try out the Doublewing list first since I've played a bunch of games with terminators in land raiders, but none with a bunch of bikes (I just got the Black Knights for $25!). But I agree that the Land raider list will be a bunch of fun. and since I pretty much only play against my brother I'm not too worried about winning tournaments. <br /> <br /> Do you have any insights on using the Mortis Contemptor? I'm looking at 2 Lascannons and the cyclone. I really like the assault cannons, but it's 24" range is a problem since I normally fight Grey Knights and 24" is the psycannon's domain. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 17 May 2013 15:25:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Mortis Contemptor is a beast, dual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Lascannons/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span> is the best <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> version there is.  I like the dual Kheres <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>ACs</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span>, it's a bit more adaptable (great against hordes too); if you're not super-worried about fliers and want to make the most of it: use a Lucius pod and drop that guy in range of the enemy on turn 1 and unleash hell!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I usually don't play against flyers, but it would be good to know I could handle them If I needed to. I really like the assault cannons, but like I said, I don't want any armour within 24" of those psycannons if I can help it. ]]></description>
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