alienvalentine wrote:
I suppose you'd be safe with some of the basics, like a farseer, and a couple units of Guardians of Dire Avengers for troops choices. A good army is going to need some of those no matter what. Other than that, it all really depends on how you want your army to play on the table top. Do you want your force to be massed firepower, quick and hard to pin down, or heavy on the assault units?

Scyrell wrote:
The battle force is a great place to start but just to get you started I would go with 2 squads of dire avengers a farseer a unit of fire dragons and a wave serpent. Comes right around 500 points +- a few for upgrades and is a perfect base towards all future Eldar armies.

Welcome to the hobby and Eldar in general they are really hard to learn and master but perhaps the most rewarding I have found. Good luck and I would hold off on getting more than I had mentioned untill the new codex drops and then see what options you have then cheers

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bikeroute wrote:
It doesn't prevent you from using anything at the moment. It's really an aesthetic thing. Traditionally Ulthwe is heavy on Psykers and anything connected to Guardians (Defenders, Storms, War Walkers, Tanks, Heavy Weapons, etc.). The great thing about Eldar is that you aren't necessarily locked into the same colors for the entire army. Aspect squads all have their own traditional colors and Harlequins do their own thing.

I play Ulthwe aswel, but I try to keep the Black as a theme throughout my army. Aspects will typically be the primary colour (Blue for avengers, etc), with Black as the secondary.

I second what was mentioned. It doesn't lock you into playing a certain way, but it can give your army a theme if you wish. I try to follow some rules when making a list;

Minimum 2 squads of guardians (3 in social games) - Ulthwe usually fields many guardians.
A warlock with EVERY guardian/jetbike squad.
Always include a Farseer (typically Eldrad)
I try to take an equal of less amount of aspect squads as I do guardian squads. Unless it's for a tournament, then screw composition!

Maybe get a small squad of something in the coming weeks, just to tide you over until the new codex and units come out. Good choices will always be Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers, maybe some guardians, wave serpents, war walkers. I don't think any of those will receive new models, and are all likely to still be effective choices in a month.

Good luck

syranas wrote:
I personally play Craftworld Mymeara - a colour gradient of dark green through to aqua, starting dark at the feet and light near the shoulders; black helmets and white weapons.

Fluff wise, they work primarily with distortion weaponry (D-cannons, Distort cannons, distortion cannons and wraithcannons), Wraiths in general (guard, lords and the seer) and guardians. The only aspect warriors they have in number (fluff wise) are Shadow Spectres.

With Eldar, the options to theme your list/army without railroading yourself are endless. And when in doubt, canibalise 2-3 craftworlds tactics wise (if they work for you) and make up a new craftworld and a new colour scheme.

Half the reason I chose mymeara was for moajority T6-T8 on the battlefield and the fact I can paint my army really fast and lazily (base coat 1 colour, dry brush 2 more, black/white detail, done).

 FreddieTau6 wrote:
Welcome to the craft world!!

I do Ulthwe my self as well and love em, my main force is a bit fluffy and a bit well I like that unit so it's going in there, guardian wise all mine are mounte on Jetbikes just cos I have a load of em and I make use of warlocks with them all cos they just buff the unit endlessly.

I would highly recommend getting an Eldrad at some point he is 'THE' Farseer and if your going fluffy Ulthwe you'll want him, he's incredibly cost effective for what he can do for your army.

With regards harlequins I take them my self and they are superb until a flamer shows up lol when joined by the shadowseer they gain the stealth and shrouded special rules so they have a 4+ cover in the open and a 2+ in any cover that coupled with their abiłity to ignore cover and a Farseer fortuning them make for a mean unit. they are a combat unit that when joined by a shadow seer and a Farseer are nigh unstoppable in combat, you want these guys with their kisses cos that gives them rending in combat as they turn their enemies to mush! They're initiative 6 with 4 attacks each on the charge, fairly mean! Yes with the kisses they're 22 pts a pop but they always make their points back for me and have loved em since the first game!

With regards to what you should get now I'd reccomend if you we're wanting to go down the battle force I'd get two if possible that then gives you 2 wave serpents, 2 war walkers which with the right weapons 'cough scatter lasers cough' are a good fire base unit and 20 guardians and 2 heavy weapon platforms and a full squad of 10 dire avengers that then gives you a good solid and relatively fluffy basis of an army to then add in whatever aspects you want and some farseers to make the fluffy Ulthwe army you want

Yes eldar are a challenging army to play and don't be surprised if to start with you struggle we've all been there they aren't a forgiving army to play but when you find the balance that works for they will reward you all day long!

Most of all enjoy!!

 Mythra wrote:
I've played against anough Eldar to know - Always take Eldrad.

Their Transports are awesome too with all the saves. Max on weapon str vs their armor.

Fire dragons are way good too. Meltas for the win.

 wuestenfux wrote:

Hello! I'm a brand new player to Warhammer 40k Tabletop (And tabletop games in general).

In this case, I'd stay away from an army like Eldar. It is difficult to play successfully for a new player. Its rather unforgiving in opposition to Marine armies. Another issue is the old codex which makes it hard to build competitive builds. Tanks are overpriced and no flyers available. Anyway, I'd go for Marines.

 Nevelon wrote:
The rumors are getting pretty solid, WD pics are out and about. This thread over in news and rumors section has all the goods.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/463557.page

Most are summarized on the first page if you don't feel like digging though the whole mess.

The battleforce is looking to get an update, although they don't always. The war walker is getting swapped out for a viper last I heard. The old one is still a good deal, and I know that some people field the walkers, so they can't be that bad.

 Cypher's Sword wrote:

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 Cypher's Sword wrote:
I agree with most of the people here, wait just a little bit to grab some models, and DO NOT drop money into wraithgaurd, they are the most overpriced money-wise thing you can buy. I suggest you pick up Path of the Warrior and Path of the Seer, some great eldar stories there.

Thanks for the advice on the Wraithguards (though I'm not too into the Wraithguards so I probably wouldn't have put much into them to begin with, it's definitely good to get an opinion on them in case I had a change of heart and thought they'd be a good option), and I'm hoping to hold out for the next few weeks, but I think I might just pick up a battleforce and an HQ in the meantime (as well as some paints and corresponding hobby tools) to at least be able to get started, since I'd imagine that I'll at least be picking up those two things sooner or later no matter what happens in the coming update, and I suppose sooner will be better since I'm dying to get my hands on something! (Or do battleforces normally get substantial overhauls in updates?)

As far as the books go, I'll definitely pick both those up, or see if I can get them off Amazon books or something as an Ebook, I've heard about Path of the Seer, all good things. Haven't heard of Path of the Warrior.

theres also Path of theOutcast which is the third in the series, which I still haven't picked up. You might also want to try the first three out of the horus heresy series (which I can't remember as I sit here at work), but that might make you want to play marines or chaos.

Once you get your elda, if you get any questions about them, I'll be happy to help, just send me a pm, because I'll be tearing through that new rulebook too.

 FreddieTau6 wrote:
Agree with all above! If you want to try out colour schemes and stuff then pick up some of the cheap 5 pack snap fit guardians that your local GW should have in store that eau you've not splashed a load of cash on stuff which you may find when you read the new codex you don't want to use for whatever reason, that way you still sink your teeth Into something eldar but don't potentially waste your money as well

I reckon most of us eldar players will lose a game or 2 in the beginning before we get to grips with this new book

PredaKhaine wrote:

 FreddieTau6 wrote:
If you want to try out colour schemes and stuff then pick up some of the cheap 5 pack snap fit guardians that your local GW should have in store that eau you've not splashed a load of cash on stuff which you may find when you read the new codex you don't want to use for whatever reason, that way you still sink your teeth Into something eldar but don't potentially waste your money as well

I tested my schemes on dawn of war first

It was a nice way of seeing how the scheme I picked would look on wraithlords and vehicles before I painted them.

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 Nevelon wrote:
Do you have a way to take and hold objectives? It's OK to have one non-mobile scoring unit to camp your home objective, the rest need to be able to survive to get across the table in a timely manner.

Can you deal with heavy armor? Someone plops down a pair of AV14 LRs and a FoR do you have an answer? Lances and Fire Dragons are probably your go-to pick here, but we'll see with the new 'dex.

What about medium and light armor? This is more prevalent then AV14, so you should be able to kill more at once. Also something you want to be able to do at long range. Spamming S7-8 shots usually works well here

Hordes of troops. Not just killing the marines after you've cracked open their transports, but what do you do when your opponent carpets his deployment zone with orks/guard blobs/little bugs? Templates, pie plates, and massed small arms are generally the way to go.

Have an answer to flyers? Giant monsters?

Here is my 2 cents after reading the new 'dex.
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