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It seems like you are fairly new to 40k in general. I suggest more reading. The Emperor is definitely not "loving" as one of his main attributes. He's more of a well-meaning guy that can't really relate to his subjects, hence his draconian rule that made Stalin look like a pussy cat. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713431.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713431.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?
Every single ork believes in what they stand for. Might makes right, and stick the boot in hard when you get a chance.

That one favors brute strength and the other cunning sneak attacks is a sideline, representing the duality of ork violence tendencies.

They are explicitly stated as being unkillably powerful divine powerhouses. Quite possibly they are the most badass things in the warp.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713435.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713435.page GMT Re:Do Gork and Mork actually exist? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713442.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713442.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?
And khorne just isn't the god of fighting. Lots of gods handle fighting. Khorne is the god of winning, and then rubbing everybody's face into it. That's why orks, in and of themselves to not automatically feed khorne. They only fight because of the joy of fighting, not necessarily over the joy of winning and then bragging about it.

Because if orks fed directly into khorne, then khorne LONG AGO would have conquered the galaxy.

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Thus ork violence doesn't feed him as its different.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713497.page GMT Re:Do Gork and Mork actually exist? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713598.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713598.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?
Orks don't take lives in anger, they do it because it's fun.

Gork and Mork are probably the most powerful Warp beings in 40k canon. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713621.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5713621.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?
There just isn't as much fluff about them, as they aren't Evil IOM baddies or their deities..

Ork gods literally possess every gargant when they fire up, and it acts as a form of mobile altar.

Ghazzy supposedly is advised by them, which is why he's so tactically brilliant, for an ork.

Snikrot's knives are blessed by Mork.

The Ork gods watch when Waaaghs happen also

Better than HBO

They aren't particularly proactive on affecting the materium. They don't need to be. The Orks are already doing what they want done with vim and vigor!

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Ascalam wrote:
Said wee little warboss is running the largest WAAAGH! in millenia

Is that supposed to impress the gods? Orks only care about size, and Gork (or possibly Mork) is da biggest one there is!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5714343.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5714343.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?
They are also supposed to be the most powerful of all Warp beings. Wasn't there a fluff bit a while back that said one of them beat up Khorne? The Orks don't feed Khorne because Khorne wants the fighting for the emotion. Orks don't care about winning or emotion, they fight because it's really really fun. An Ork doesn't lose a battle, if they win they won. If they die, they died fightin']]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5714398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5714398.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

tgjensen wrote:

Ascalam wrote:
Said wee little warboss is running the largest WAAAGH! in millenia

Is that supposed to impress the gods? Orks only care about size, and Gork (or possibly Mork) is da biggest one there is!

Actually ,yes. Although entertain might be a better word.

Gork and Mork watch the Waaaghs as entertainment,

The bigger and meatier they are, the more they enjoy them

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insider this.

Orks societies when reach a critical mass and prepare fir Waaagh. A spacehulk conveniently plops into the system. Convenience? Or an act of Gork.... Or Mork?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5715569.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5715569.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5715678.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5715678.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

Eetion wrote:
As for what they do.

insider this.

Orks societies when reach a critical mass and prepare fir Waaagh. A spacehulk conveniently plops into the system. Convenience? Or an act of Gork.... Or Mork?

Mind = blown]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5715722.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5715722.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

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In terms of emotions, Ork emotions seem to be a blend of Slaanesh and Khorne, really. Fightin' and dedicated to bloodshed but for the enjoyment of it. Most 40k Black Library writers don't seem to realize this though and just say Orks fall to Khorne or have Khorne be impressed by orks. Poor Slaanesh. No one ever remembers s/he exists except for drugs and sexual assault.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5716234.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5716234.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?
I've not seen anything saying they ever have

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Ailaros wrote:
Of course they do. If a single ork can make a metal tube shoot bullets on the power of faith alone, then certainly a hundred trillion orks all believing in something is strong enough to make a god be real.

And khorne just isn't the god of fighting. Lots of gods handle fighting. Khorne is the god of winning, and then rubbing everybody's face into it. That's why orks, in and of themselves to not automatically feed khorne. They only fight because of the joy of fighting, not necessarily over the joy of winning and then bragging about it.

Because if orks fed directly into khorne, then khorne LONG AGO would have conquered the galaxy.

I don't agree with your assessment of khorne. khorne worshipers don't take joy in killing their foes per se, they don't relish a kill because such an act would feed into slaneesh's belly...khorne's followers' first priority is to spill blood and take skulls in the name of the skull throne. Period. This is always preferably done in melee combat, as it is more bloody. That is not to say though that khorne's followers want to inflict pain as a primary goal, as this would again feed slaneesh. They want to kill in whatever way spills the most blood, in the fastest way possible.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5716433.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5716433.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5718744.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5718744.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

ThePrimordial wrote:
The reason I ask is because every other warp deity is worshipped uniform with very defined traits and from massive amounts of emotion and or worship (Tzeentch being a trick d*ck, Khorne being short fused, The Emperor being loving, etc) and the extent of gork and mork is that one is cunning and one is strong. That doesn't seem like enough to form a warp god does it?

One is the god of Cunning Brutality, the other is the god of Brutal Cunning. Up to you to figure out which is which.

They definitely exist, and are the most powerful Warp Entities to exist. They have no use for the Great Game the Ruinous Powers are playing, though they soundly trounce all comers if any of the others decide to step to them personally.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5719939.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5719939.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5720988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5720988.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

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Ascalam wrote:
The Ork gods watch when Waaaghs happen also Better than HBO

I know I'd rather watch an Ork WAAAGH! than HBO.

... as long as it was from a suitably safe distance... a few galaxies away maybe?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5721335.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5721335.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722401.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?
But seriously, with all the orks believing in them, there's no way they can't not exist. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722424.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722424.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?
I read (2nd ed. codex I believe) that they believe they visit their gods and fight with them for eternity. And since with Orks belief = reality...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722432.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722432.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

Devoted-to-the-machine wrote:
Dont forget about BORK! The 3rd god of orks.

The guys at my local call me PORK cuz... i'm a ¨pirate¨ ork :/]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722435.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722435.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

Dakkamite wrote:
Related question; what happens to the souls of Orks when they die?

I read (2nd ed. codex I believe) that they believe they visit their gods and fight with them for eternity. And since with Orks belief = reality...

Ork heaven pretty much is Valhalla. So I think they go up to Gork n Mork's realm and duke it out in the warp as orky daemons forever. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722532.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722532.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

I thought Orks believed they were just reborn? That way they can come back and fight again! But I doubt the gestalt psychic field Orks produce stretches so far as to determine the destination of their souls.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722546.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722546.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

tgjensen wrote:

Dakkamite wrote:
Related question; what happens to the souls of Orks when they die?

I read (2nd ed. codex I believe) that they believe they visit their gods and fight with them for eternity. And since with Orks belief = reality...

The warp is a blank slate to be affected and touched by the minds of the living. If enough people believe something about the warp hard enough or subconsciously influence it enough, it becomes true in the warp.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722549.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722549.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

Kain wrote:

Ork heaven pretty much is Valhalla

They are already in Ork heaven. There's always something to fight in the 40k galaxy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722582.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

DarknessEternal wrote:

Kain wrote:

Ork heaven pretty much is Valhalla

They are already in Ork heaven. There's always something to fight in the 40k galaxy.

Well they get a rerun.

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Kain wrote:

tgjensen wrote:
Dakkamite wrote:
Related question; what happens to the souls of Orks when they die?

I read (2nd ed. codex I believe) that they believe they visit their gods and fight with them for eternity. And since with Orks belief = reality...

I thought Orks believed they were just reborn? That way they can come back and fight again! But I doubt the gestalt psychic field Orks produce stretches so far as to determine the destination of their souls.

I'm not sure that's exactly true. Didn't daemonic beings always inhabit the warp, feeding off realspace emotions? It might be that sentient creatures' feelings influence which daemons grow powerful, like Khorne during wars and Nurgle during plagues, and thus exert the most control over the warp, but saying "if enough people believe it, it becomes true" is surely a little too simplistic?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722628.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722628.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722659.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5722659.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?

tgjensen wrote:

Dakkamite wrote:
Related question; what happens to the souls of Orks when they die?

I read (2nd ed. codex I believe) that they believe they visit their gods and fight with them for eternity. And since with Orks belief = reality...

The ork belief about the after life is this, I believe. It is that once an ork dies, then Gork, or Mork, sucks them up, then burps them into a new body where the orks live out their warfilled lives in happines.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5724347.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/532184/5724347.page GMT Do Gork and Mork actually exist?
Alright, that's what I believe or what my Orks believe. Orks do not die of old age. Only fighting makes them stronger, if they don't fight they don't grow. Gork and Mork (and even Bork if you want) were exceptionally large very old Orks, about the size of a Mega Stompa. because the beings here were no longer making them bigger, they entered the Warp. There it is believed they are so large now they are Planet size. They do not communicate with the Orks that worship them, nor do they care.
Ork bloodlust is because the only way they can be big and strong is through battle - win or lose, they will get stronger. Orks do not have an after life, but Orks can survive even the most severe wounds (including decapitation). When the ork actually does die (or even loses a limb) the dead ork decays by sending out spores, which become Snotlings and Squigies. If they survive they become Gretchins, If the gretchin survives orks. every fight they get bigger and stronger (and usually dumber).

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