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I'm working on a scenario for a 40K game and I wanted to do a little lead-in narrative for the players.

I was wondering if anyone has read anything about Sororitas having their own interrogators/torturers within their organization, or if they request the services of a member of the inquisition. Seems like they they have the autonomy to go ahead with their own 'questioning', plus part of their job is to checking on citizens for mutation, deviance, etc. and wouldn't always have an Inquisitor or acolyte handy.

I thought I'd read somewhere that the Order Hospitaller would serve in that capacity, but I can't find anything that says that as of yet.

Thanks!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739497.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation
After all... there's just not that many Sisters.

The bit about the Hospitallers is referencing their care for the sick and injured, and how they seem the kindest and gentlest of the Sisters... until one of their patients is revealed to be a mutant or a heretic.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739536.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739536.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation WD codex notes that their tools are also used as instruments of torture.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739573.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739573.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation
I'd suspect that this is more of a priestly thing, however, and that the Adepta Sororitas would normally hand over captives (if they make any) to the clergy whose day-to-day activities include judging the Imperial populace and administering penitence (see 2E Codex:SoB page 38).

In theory, however ... the Sisters are constantly torturing themselves, why should they have trouble torturing others? Surely, a Mistress of Repentance could take care of a non-Sororitas sinner just as much as she cares for the spiritual sanctity of her own Order's members - and a Sister Hospitaller could make sure the subject does not pass out into the respite of unconsciousness (or, if her character is staunch enough, assist by using more "refined" methods).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739648.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739648.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739656.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739656.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation DA special in that regard?

I think you may be referring to the Fallen Dark Angels, which are reportedly very hard to break. Surely, most people would have trouble finding and pressing that small spot between "not breaking" and "dying". Even the Dark Angel Interrogator-Chaplains do not succeed with every captive due to this, but they might have some advantage in being better accustomed to dealing with a Marine's unique physiology (which would surely make most forms of interrogation more difficult).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739713.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739713.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation lol. They investigated everyone else for heresy and stuff.

Obviously that role has changed slightly, but various pieces of fluff have shown them being all investigativey and interrogatey by turns.

I imagine being all bitchy and trying to break the will of heretics and traitors would come naturally for them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739760.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5739760.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation RT book has stuck with me ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5741237.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5741237.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation
 Troike wrote:
Yes Hospitallars can serve as torturers. The WD codex notes that their tools are also used as instruments of torture.


True, though I also recall that they might get carried away and kill the prisoner for being a heretic before getting everything out of him. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5741252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5741252.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation
Spetulhu wrote:
 Troike wrote:
Yes Hospitallars can serve as torturers. The WD codex notes that their tools are also used as instruments of torture.


True, though I also recall that they might get carried away and kill the prisoner for being a heretic before getting everything out of him.

Yes, Though bear in mind, that comes from a Dark Heresy book, and those apparently have a few issues in meshing with GW fluff.

Personally, I don't really like the Dark Heresy description of Hospitillars. They're professionals with extensive medical knowledge, you'd think that they'd be able to keep their zeal in check, if only temporarily, to follow the orders of their superiors.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5741558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5741558.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation
Keeping zeal in check is... exactly the opposite of why you're a zealot in the first place.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5741824.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5741824.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation
 Psienesis wrote:
Zeal is its own excuse.

Keeping zeal in check is... exactly the opposite of why you're a zealot in the first place.

And disobeying your superior who ordered you to interrogate someone is just fine and dandy?

They are zealots, but they are not undisiplined rabble.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5741838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5741838.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5745152.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5745152.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation
Also the Sisters Hospitalliers are first and foremost medics, not torturers, that's just their useful third ability as they are SOB second and could do damage as torturers third.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5746234.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5746234.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation
As to their investigation abilities, I have no doubt that Dialogous and Famulous might be very skilled at such tasks, in their own ways, but I don't see there being enough Sisters, of any kind, to rival, say, the Arbites or the Inquisition on the galactic stage, which are the other two major investigative bodies. They might serve as a "local police" investigative unit on a Shrine World or similar locale, or investigate crimes enacted against the Church, or on its grounds, but I don't think you'll find large numbers of Sisters tracking down well-hidden cults or the like.

I rather imagine they will either go scorched-earth or wait until Ordo Hereticus calls them in for the purgation.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5746941.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5746941.page GMT Adeptus Sororitas and interrogation
Psienesis wrote:That is why heretics and mutants in their care don't last long.
Says a book from an RPG that wants to tell me Sisters are space magicians that shoot lasers out of their eyes and use "civilian" bolters.

I prefer the Codex fluff on the subject.

Psienesis wrote:[...] but I don't think you'll find large numbers of Sisters tracking down well-hidden cults or the like.
This, however, I agree with. Hunting down well-hidden cults is Inquisition and Arbites business. Occasionally, said Inquisitor may have a Hospitaller in their retinue.
Imho, ecclesiarchal torture, meaning castigation of the populace in an attempt to purge sins, is something I actually see the normal clergy being more active in - as is hinted by that rulebook fluff piece about the dungeons of Ophelia VII. They might even have their own lay servant specialists for these jobs, though they'd probably act in a much more crude manner than the educated Hospitallers. "Another Inquisition", so to say, closer to the medieval original, just operating under a different name and using less refined methods for less critical jobs. You don't need a doctor just to have someone scream their soul out, after all, and in these cases the Ecclesiarchy wouldn't be after the truth - only a confession, if at all.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5747252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/533729/5747252.page GMT