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Little list to kill some tau and there farseer bomb

Nemesor Zahndrekh
Vargard Obyron

Cryptek - abysal staff, shadow
Cryptek - abysal staff, shadow
Lord orb, weave

20 warriors nemsor, cryptek
10 Immortals - lord, vargard

Shard pyre shards, time arrow

Wraith x 6 (whips)

5 Deathmarks, Cryptek

Annihilation barge

Doomsday cannon

Plan is to smash him hard and fast with the doomsday and annihilation barge then drop nemsors warriors in near an objective or behind a tank coupled with the immortals to take any charges, deathmarks on the deathstar and wraiths drawing fire and hopefully charging the deathstar after the deathmarks. The shard is a big points sink but i figured if i keep it close to the wraiths he can join the combat or go tank hunting]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5755428.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5755428.page GMT
But, if there was an army that I wouldn't take it against, it would have to be Tau. 4++ isn't going to save you from volume of fire.

If you have 6 whip coils, you can drop 3, cos 3 will generally do.

With this list I have a couple of questions:

a) Is Obyron allowed to take a Court? Not near my codex, and you'll need 2 overlords to take 2 Veils.

b) Brave move teleporting 20 warriors - that is a big footprint and as it will also have your warlord in it that would be a bit of a worry. I would suggest that maybe dropping a few off and putting them in a GA might be safer (if you have a GA).

c) As a tactic, put Obyron with the Shard to start, then teleport them both.

I haven't added it, but are you sure this adds to 1850? Seems a little light.

Tbh, if I was going to make an anti tau list, I'd probably have more AV13 and I'd get 2 sets of deathmarks. But ymmv

hth!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5759697.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5759697.page GMT RC. I have to assume it is because he is Zahndrekh's minion he doesn't have time for his own.

I also agree on B. You have to find some pretty wind open spaces to DS with that many models. If you can't place just one of them you roll mishap for them all. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5760010.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5760010.page GMT
I like the shard i just never get to use him since for his points he is underwelming give me a wraith lord any day but hey its only a fun game.

I think your right on the warriors i might drop them to 10 there just a shield so i dont scatter oby and whoever he has. I dont think he can join the shard can he?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5763439.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5763439.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5763460.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5763460.page GMT
Put Zahn on a CCB and if you flat out you can get just about anywhere you want then just ghost walk up with oby.. Ive pulled spyders from the bf to my scarab swarms.. I've pulled entire 20man warrior blobs into RF range of a LR... good stuff. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5764289.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5764289.page GMT IC can only join a monstrous creature if that creature can already be in a squad. EX: spyders, carnefex, riptide, tyrant, ect. Next putting Zan in the ccb is kinda silly to me because it you move flat out you may be leaving him out by himself for the turn before he gets any support. flat out moves happen in the shooting phase which is after the ghost walker mantel does it's thing in the moving phase. In my opinion it is a bad idea to sit him next to a landraider and allow the LR to shoot the piss out of his barge before getting any support form Oby in the fallowing turn. Guess you got lucky and someone did not know when the ghostwalker mantel was supposed to activate or did not read the rules to know that flat out happens in the shooting phase now... Lastly and I really hate to say this the C'tan shard sucks. we got ripped off with the giant monster thing that every codex seems to get now. outs has a craptastic 4++ save, only 4 wounds, can't take any powers worth taking (that is to say other things in out dex can fill the same role cheaper and more effectively) and costs way too much. you will be better off taking an ork detachment containing only grots... The only way a list with a c'tan shard could be fun is if you take three of them and orkin the diviner accompanied by as many planes as you can that way your enemy has trouble going anywhere first turn and you will get an above average number of reserves in your turn 2.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5764352.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5764352.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5764556.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/534700/5764556.page GMT