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1.) 72", str 10, ap 2, ordinance
2.) 60", str 10, ap 1, ordinance 1, blast, primary weapon
3.) 72", STR 10, Ap 1, ordinance 1, primary weapon

I don't play the tabletop, and I am trying to figure out which of these things is PHYSICALLY the smallest in universe, by their stats. Also I am trying to figure out, again, how to rewrite this with the current set of nomenclature and rules.

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if you want to know, they are:
Laser Destroyer... 72", str 10, ap 2, ordinance
Magma Cannon... 60", str 10, ap 1, ordinance 1, blast, primary weapon
Neutron Laser Projector... 72", STR 10, Ap 1, ordinance 1, primary weapon, shock pulse, feedback

I'm trying to figure out which is 'smallest step up from a lascannon' in power and size and cooling requierments by looking at the stats rather than in-universe lore. If you know which barrel requires the smallest mount in lore, I suppose that would be good to know too. I'm also trying to figure out a shorthand definition for each bit. This is for a rogue trader game, not for tabletop -- which again I don't play. Just trying to figure out a plausible alternative SINGLE weapon for a Macharius.
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The real only way to do a physical comparison would be to physically compare the modeled weapon sizes. Yet I know you are more interested in power consumption, cooling and all the other bits that make up a gun instead of just barrel lengths so that isn't the best option either. In any case I will try and answer it but this will be all opinion based, as will all the answers you get on this forum:

Personally, I believe it should take a lot more power to generate an area-of-effect then a pinpoint attack. Like wise, it takes more energy to generate an attack that has an easier time penetrating through armour. These two factors would be more critical in a comparison then the overall range of a weapon which could be limited by factors completely unrelated to the power consumption.

This leaves the Magma Cannon as the 'heaviest' weapon from the three even though it has less range, with the Destroyer being the 'lightest' of the three.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800277.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800277.page GMT Which of these 3 gun stats makes the smallest gun? How to update these stats to current rules? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800306.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800306.page GMT Which of these 3 gun stats makes the smallest gun? How to update these stats to current rules? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800324.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800324.page GMT Which of these 3 gun stats makes the smallest gun? How to update these stats to current rules?
Also, how do I update the rules so they use the current nomenclature and formatting methods?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800327.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800327.page GMT Which of these 3 gun stats makes the smallest gun? How to update these stats to current rules? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800368.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800368.page GMT Which of these 3 gun stats makes the smallest gun? How to update these stats to current rules? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800370.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800370.page GMT Which of these 3 gun stats makes the smallest gun? How to update these stats to current rules?
Not sure off hand on number 2.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800395.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800395.page GMT Re:Which of these 3 gun stats makes the smallest gun? How to update these stats to current rules? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800750.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800750.page GMT Which of these 3 gun stats makes the smallest gun? How to update these stats to current rules? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800795.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5800795.page GMT Which of these 3 gun stats makes the smallest gun? How to update these stats to current rules?
Gavinfoxx wrote:
Okay, physically comparing models, which seems to require the smallest mount? The Doomhammer Laser, the Destroyer Tank Hunter laser, or the Valdor tank hunter laser? If you wanted to put one on a Macharius, which would be most plausible?


In ascending order of size:

Laser destroyer (which is now STR 9 AP 2): Leman Russ variant gun, about the size of a vanquisher or earthshaker cannon.

Neutron laser: Valdor gun, takes up half the hull of a "small" superheavy tank.

Magma cannon: Shadowsword variant gun, smaller visible barrel than the neutron laser, but only because most of it is mounted in the hull compared to the open-mount Valdor.

For a size comparison:



The laser destroyer is on the left tank in the front row, the neutron laser is on the two Valdors in the back. And of course there are a few standard lascannons so you can see how it scales up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5802466.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/537197/5802466.page GMT