<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Which is the better Hierodule?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Which is the better Hierodule? 40k big style. Ok it is largely 40k big style, but you get my meaning.

I really like the Hierodule models, and I particularly like how they arent anything like the cost of the Hierophant or Harridan

Im torn between which one to get, and to know if they are even worth it in the game? Do they actually cause much damage, or are they easily dealt with in general? (bare in mind we have very few D strength weapons)

So which one do people think is best, Scythed or Barbed? And how well do they perform in game?

Either way, for pure size, they look great fun to use at least!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877460.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877460.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule?
Personally, I prefer stabby (but thats because I don't believe tyranids should have ranged capabilities whatsoever, and thus play my nids without a shooting phase...), but I think the shooty is better for the cost overall.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877466.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877466.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule?
chaos0xomega wrote:
That depends, do you want shooty or stabby?

Personally, I prefer stabby (but thats because I don't believe tyranids should have ranged capabilities whatsoever, and thus play my nids without a shooting phase...), but I think the shooty is better for the cost overall.


Thats the thing, im not sure which I prefer, I can see the good and bad in both.

Also, Tyranids have some very good shooting capabilites. And its perfectly fluffy to use them. Why do you feel they should be melee only?


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877481.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877481.page GMT Re:Which is the better Hierodule? CC but also gives it some shooting which is useful on the often massive Apocalypse boards.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877567.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877567.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule?
Also they make good tyrannofexes with "acid spray" in standard games. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877641.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877641.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule?
 tetrisphreak wrote:
I like the scythed hierodule. It is agile so it can run and still fire it's hell storm flamer.

Also they make good tyrannofexes with "acid spray" in standard games.


In the new book cant the Barbed run and still fire one cannon though? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877656.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877656.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877759.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule?
 Kaime wrote:
Get both


My brain shouts 'DO IT!!' but my bank account screams 'NOOOOOO!!']]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877772.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877772.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule? Apoc book, maybe it'll be in the FW book.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877784.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877784.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule? id go with.

Im not sure if both have a psychic power or not. If i remember correctly the scythed one does. Trade it out for a biomancy power if you can? not sure again. havent played apocolypse with tyranids since 5th ed. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877800.page GMT Re:Which is the better Hierodule?
The nice thing about nids though is that it is fairly easy to use a unit and just make it something else. For example, I have a horde of hormagaunts that I just use as termagaunts. They're the exact same size and it's even believable from a fluff standpoint if you consider how a hydralisk fired its spines. I've not had anybody put up a fuss about me doing this. It's pretty easy to remember that all the hormas are actually termas]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877825.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5877825.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule? Apoc book, although I think Forge World are releasing a new Imperial Armour Apoc book with rules for the other one soon.

It really comes down to the typical Apoc games you play. While the ranged weapons on the Barbed Hierodule are decent, 6E really made GC's more vulnerable to Destroyer weapons. If you're up against too many of those, the only real way to protect your monsters is to keep them in melee.

Or just compromise and buy a Harridan instead :p]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5880453.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5880453.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule?
Oh and the Barbed Hierodule is a little bigger too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5881582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5881582.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5881629.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5881629.page GMT Re:Which is the better Hierodule?
The Scythed Hierodule doesn't have updated rules yet, those are coming soon. It will probably get a lot cheaper.


Any possibility it will be updated to a plastic kit as the Nid superheavy that all races are rumoured to be getting?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5881649.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5881649.page GMT Re:Which is the better Hierodule?
 Ratius wrote:
The Scythed Hierodule doesn't have updated rules yet, those are coming soon. It will probably get a lot cheaper.


Any possibility it will be updated to a plastic kit as the Nid superheavy that all races are rumoured to be getting?


GWS Stated they would no longer steal Forgeworld Kits so no. It's just getting a rules update in Imperial Armour Apocalypse 2 Second Edition which should be out in the next couple of months.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5881915.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5881915.page GMT Re:Which is the better Hierodule?
 Zande4 wrote:
 Ratius wrote:
The Scythed Hierodule doesn't have updated rules yet, those are coming soon. It will probably get a lot cheaper.


Any possibility it will be updated to a plastic kit as the Nid superheavy that all races are rumoured to be getting?


GWS Stated they would no longer steal Forgeworld Kits so no. It's just getting a rules update in Imperial Armour Apocalypse 2 Second Edition which should be out in the next couple of months.

The barbed hierodule's rules in the new APOC are the same as they were before. I would imagine in the time between now and the update for is APOC 2e, the scythed hierodules current rules and points costs will be an acceptable representation on the battlefield. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5882592.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5882592.page GMT Re:Which is the better Hierodule? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5882620.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5882620.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule?
 HerbaciousT wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
That depends, do you want shooty or stabby?

Personally, I prefer stabby (but thats because I don't believe tyranids should have ranged capabilities whatsoever, and thus play my nids without a shooting phase...), but I think the shooty is better for the cost overall.


Thats the thing, im not sure which I prefer, I can see the good and bad in both.

Also, Tyranids have some very good shooting capabilites. And its perfectly fluffy to use them. Why do you feel they should be melee only?




Because I like thinking of them as a ravenous swarm of giant alien reptile-insects. Considering that they are 100% organic, and few organic creatures on this planet have biological projectile components to them, I prefer to keep my Tyranids without them. I make the rare exception for things which "make sense" (Carnifex bio-plasma, trygon bio-electricity stuff, psychic powers, scythed heirodule flamething, pyrovore flame thing, but tyranid "guns" are out for me).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5885295.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5885295.page GMT Re:Which is the better Hierodule?
 tetrisphreak wrote:
 Zande4 wrote:
 Ratius wrote:
The Scythed Hierodule doesn't have updated rules yet, those are coming soon. It will probably get a lot cheaper.


Any possibility it will be updated to a plastic kit as the Nid superheavy that all races are rumoured to be getting?


GWS Stated they would no longer steal Forgeworld Kits so no. It's just getting a rules update in Imperial Armour Apocalypse 2 Second Edition which should be out in the next couple of months.

The barbed hierodule's rules in the new APOC are the same as they were before. I would imagine in the time between now and the update for is APOC 2e, the scythed hierodules current rules and points costs will be an acceptable representation on the battlefield.


It's 135 points more expensive then the variant that is superior in every way. That's no tacceptable! It used to be 200 points cheaper so I'm going to assume its going to get a nice little price drop.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5885512.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5885512.page GMT Re:Which is the better Hierodule? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5887108.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/5887108.page GMT Re:Which is the better Hierodule?
 Zande4 wrote:
 tetrisphreak wrote:
 Zande4 wrote:
 Ratius wrote:
The Scythed Hierodule doesn't have updated rules yet, those are coming soon. It will probably get a lot cheaper.


Any possibility it will be updated to a plastic kit as the Nid superheavy that all races are rumoured to be getting?


GWS Stated they would no longer steal Forgeworld Kits so no. It's just getting a rules update in Imperial Armour Apocalypse 2 Second Edition which should be out in the next couple of months.

The barbed hierodule's rules in the new APOC are the same as they were before. I would imagine in the time between now and the update for is APOC 2e, the scythed hierodules current rules and points costs will be an acceptable representation on the battlefield.


It's 135 points more expensive then the variant that is superior in every way. That's no tacceptable! It used to be 200 points cheaper so I'm going to assume its going to get a nice little price drop.

But all their ammunition is living! And it's fired using gas bladders and other organic methods
Of making something shoot! That's why nid guns are so damn awesome!!!!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/8517466.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/8517466.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/8517475.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/8517475.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/8517671.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/8517671.page GMT Which is the better Hierodule? Hi, please don't resurrect threads by posting in them when they're this old. It's called thread necromancy (threadomancy) and it's against the rules. Everyone does it first time, but keep it in mind in future. Thanks ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/8517675.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541843/8517675.page GMT