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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey guys, it's been a while since my buddy and I have played a game and while it's still fresh in memory I figured I'd post it here!  This is his first Dark Eldar match, and my second time with the new Necrons.  We're both re-adjusting to 6th edition yet. <br /> <br /> The Lists:<br />   <b>Necrons</b>:<br />    <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b>:<br />       Destroyer Lord + WarScythe + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(626);'>MSS</span><br />       Destroyer Lord + WarScythe + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(626);'>MSS</span><br />    <b>Troops</b>:<br />       Warrior x 5 + NightScythe<br />       Warrior x 8 + NightScythe<br />       Warrior x 5<br />       Warrior x 8<br />    <b>Fast</b>:<br />       Canopek Scarabs x 5 + couple of Whip Coils<br />       Canopek Scarabs x 5 + couple of Whip Coils<br />    <b>Heavy</b>:<br />       Annilation Barge<br />       Annilation Barge<br />    <b>Fortification</b>:<br />       Aegis Defense Line + Quad Gun<br /> <br />   <b>Dark Eldar</b>:<br />    <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b>:<br />       Archon + blaster<br />    <b>Troops</b>:<br />       Kabalite Warrior x 10 + Raider(Night Shields + Flicker Fields + Splinter Racks)<br />       Kabalite Warrior x 10 + Raider(Night Shields + Flicker Fields + Splinter Racks)<br />    <b>Elites</b>:<br />       Trueborn x 4 + 2 blasters + 2 dark lances + Venom(Night Shields + Flicker Fields)<br />    <b>Heavy</b>:<br />       Ravangers x 3(Night Shields + Flicker Fields)<br />   <b>Eldar</b>:<br />    <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b>:<br />       Farseer + Jetbike + Mantle of the Laughing God + Singing Spear<br />    <b>Troop</b>:<br />       Jetbike Squad x 3<br />       Jetbike Squad x 4<br />    <b>Heavy</b>:<br />       WarWalker + Scatter Laser + StarCannon x 3<br /> <br /> We roll for Mission/Deployment and we get the Kill Point mission and Dawn of War. Our battlefield looked like an Imperial battle.  There were drop pods, Wrecked Lemen Russ', Wrecked Basiliks, a couple of wrecked Dark Eldar raiders, and some other misclanious terrain.  Overall it looked pretty neat.  He won the toss to decide which side he wanted and chose the side with the taller sets of terrain.  I put the Aegis/Quad gun along the center of my deployment zone.  His Farseer ends up with Eldar Guide, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>BRB</span> Guide, and Mind War.<br /> <br /> The Necron Warlord trait was Furious Charge when in the enemy deployment zone(Master of Offense), and the Archon got the ability to redeploy some units. I(Necron) won the roll off to deploy first, and I took it.  I started with one squad of Wraiths, my warlord, and an Annilation Barge to the left of my Aegis.  The other squad of Wraiths, Destroyer Lord, and Annilation Barge took the right side of the Aegis.  Both Sets were deployed as far forward as I could go.  My NightScythes holding the Warriors were in reserve as was the squad of 5 Warriors.  The Squad of 8 started on the board manning the Quad Gun.<br /> <br /> The Dark Eldar player deployed his Raiders, Ravangers, and Venom mostly out of sight behind stuff.  From my perspective most of it looked pretty even across his board edge.  The Venom was in the center hiding behind cover, the Ravangers and Raiders kind of blended together along the center and his left flank.  The Farseer was completely out of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>.  The War Walkers were deployed on his right flank by some ruins, but not completely out of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>.  His Bikers would start in Reserve.<br /> <br /> With Deployment done he tries to steal, but fails.<br /> <br /> <b>Turn 1</b>:<br />   <b>Necron</b>:<br />   Well, my mindset is to rush forward with everything.  The Wraiths are supposed to be pretty durable, so lets get them into combat!  Both squads of wraiths move 12" forwards in their respective flanks.  I failed to really run with them.  Both Annilation Barges follow the lead of the Wraiths and move 12" as well.  The Annilation Barge on my left flank(by my warlord) shoots into the War Walker squad.  I end up with 1 six, and those 3 hits become 1 pen and 1 glance.  He saves the pen, but fails the glance.  The Annilation Barge on my right flank shoots at a Ravanger, gets 1 six which leads to two pens.  He saves 1 and fails the other, weapon destroyed(so minus 1 of his 3 dark lances...)  My Aegis shoots at the War Walker squad and ends up wrecking one of the walkers!<br /> <br />   <b>Dark Eldar</b>:<br />   His Farseer guides 2 Ravangers.  The Ravangers are on my right flank, and they looked at the Annilation Barge there and it blew up.  First Blood to him!  The War Walkers shoot into the Wraiths on my left flank(Using the guns in the wrong order), and still kill one.  His Raiders and Venom don't really do anything this turn. <br /> <br /> <b>Turn 2</b>:<br />   <b>Necron</b>:<br />   Loosing the Annilation Barge sucked, but it could have been way worse with the War Walkers on the left flank.  I roll for reserves, and I get both NightScythes, and the 5 man squad stays behind!  Perfect roll!  One NightScythe comes on towards the middle and heads to the left flank.  The other comes in on the right flank and flies forward.  On the left flank I move my Annilation Barge forward another 12" hoping I'd maybe get in range of his Venom(I failed to do so(NightShields really hurt my shooting)).  The Wraiths move foward towards the War Walkers.  I'm now within 5" of them.   On the right flank the Wraiths move to within 3" of a Raider.  Onto some shooting, and the remaining Annilation Barge completely wiffs.  The Night scythe on the left flank hits the war walkers, but the glace I got was saved.  On the right flank, my NightScythe shoots at the Raider.  I get 6 hits, and that results in 3 pens.  He saves 2 of them!  We roll the result of the unsaved, and it goes boom(6)!  The resulting explosion kills 5 of the Kabalites inside it.  It also results in woulding one of my wraiths.  I then roll for Arc.  I Arc onto my wraiths.  5 hits result, and 2 unsaved wounds occur.  So I loose my first Wraith from this squad, and another is wounded.  The Quad gun immobilized the Ravanger that lost a gun.  <br /> <br />   In Assault I declare the left flanks wraiths into the War Walkers. Overwatch amounted to nothing.  On the right flank I declare multi-assault, as there's a Ravanger by the kabalite warriors.  That overwatch also amounted to nothing.  The Assault with the Warwalkers ends up with 1 loosing a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span>, and I saved the wound he did to me.  Yea...I wiffed...  In the Assault with the Ravanger and Kabalites, my Destroyer Lord is in Base contact with a warrior, and the Ravanger. Two Wraiths are in b2b with the ravanger, and 2 more are in with the remaining Kabalites.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(626);'>MSS</span> goes off and one of the warriors kill his friend.(Probably relishing the feeling of it) My Destroyer Lord's hits go into the Ravanger, and it Explodes.  The explosion ends up killing 1 of his warriors, and I get another wounded Wraith.  The Warriors end up doing nothing in Assault, and I kill 2 of his warriors.  There's 1 guy left and he fails morale and runs off the board.  I consolidate towards his Farseer.  <br /> <br />   <b>Dark Eldar</b>:<br />   His Farseer guides a Ravanger and the Venom.  His squad of 3 Bikes come on, and turbo boost into my deployment on my far left flank.  Hiding behind a destroyed Lemen Russ.  He moves his Farseer over there, one of his of his Ravangers, and a Raider.  So he basically turbo boosted everything except his Venom and the Ravanger that was immobilized, and abandoned my right flank.  The Venom moves up 12" to below my Night Scythe.  He snapshots into it, and gets a pen. I fail the jink, and get locked Velocity(Didn't realize how laughable that really is...)  In Assault the War Walkers save all their pens/glances except 1 glance on the guy that wasn't hit yet.  So they both have 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span> left.  He fails to hurt my Wraiths.<br /> <br /> <b>Turn 3</b>:<br />   <b>Necron</b>:<br />   The remaining reserves come on and I put them on the right side of the Aegis.  I move the squad of 8 towards the right flank, but keep 1 guy in base contact that can fire it.  I move my Scythes.  The one with Locked Velocity moves towards the people on my right flank.  The other one moves towards the true born/Venom.  My Wraiths move to assault the immobilized Ravanger.  In shooting, the warriors cause a bunch of glances to the Ravanger on my right flank, but he saves all but 1.  The Night Scythe on the right flank(with locked Velocity) puts his shots into the Ravanger, and blows it up.  The Other Night Scythe tries to blow up the Venom, but only causes a Glance, taking a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span>.  The Annilation Barge puts it's shots into the Venom, and end up wrecking it.  I go to assault the Immobilized Ravanger.<br /> <br /> At this point my opponent decides to concede.  He's got his True Born, a squad of 3 bikes, his farseer, and his war walkers left on the board.  He killed 1 Unit(my Annilation Barge), while I had killed: 2 Ravangers, 1 Raider, 1 Squad of Warriors, and 1 Venom.  In this assault phase I would probably kill another Ravanger and maybe finally finish off the War Walkers.  <br /> <br /> <br /> After the battle, we talked about ways to improve the Dark Eldar's outcome.  Ideas we had were: switching the Eldar JetBikes for Guardians, when deploying he could have actually deployed so that his raiders had their sides facing me, but would have been out of range of my first turn shooting (due to his -6" to shooting range), he could have also deployed harder on one flank, and pushed that harder.  By having my units split into what was essentially two groups, I could have gotten boned if he had pressed one side harder.  <br /> <br /> Any thoughts?  Did we do anything wrong here?  Overall tactics would be nice.  <br /> <br /> Thanks for your time in reading!]]></description>
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				<title>1500 point Necrons vs Dark Eldar + Eldar</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well, I'll comment on the Necron side first, the list should have been optimally:<br /> <br /> 1	Destroyer Lord w/ Mindshackles, Semp Weave<br /> 1	Destroyer Lord w/ Mindshackles, Semp Weave<br /> 	Troops:<br /> 5	Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe<br /> 5	Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe<br /> 5	Necron Warriors w/ Nightscythe<br /> 5	Necron Warriors<br /> 	Fast:<br /> 5	Canoptek Wraiths<br /> 5	Canoptek Wraiths<br /> 	Heavy:<br /> 1	Annihilation Barge<br /> 1	Annihilation Barge<br /> 1	Annihilation Barge<br /> <br /> <br /> Nothing much i can say, dark eldar is a nightmare matchup if  they take the good tools, he didnt, so  it should not be a  problem.<br /> <br /> <br /> On the Dark Eldar stuff, he should not tak 10 man squads in raiders,<br /> <br /> beast squad or hellions woud help a lot as well as the baron for both units.<br /> <br /> eldar allies should be minimized to:<br /> <br /> Farseer, bike, mantle<br /> <br /> 3 jetbikes or 5 Rangers<br /> <br /> One thing about the nightshields they are bloody good surely against necrons with their 24 inch shooting range becoming 18 you could dance around most things and kill them.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Valek]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the reply!  So what would the optimized dark eldar list look like? <br /> <br /> Also why no walkers?  They have the ability to put out tons of dakka.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ ArcSoll]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was thinking about:<br /> <br /> Baron<br /> Farseer w/ Jetbike (mantle??)<br /> <br /> 14 Hellions <br /> 5 Warriors w/blaster - Venom - Nightshields<br /> 5 Warriors w/blaster - Venom - Nightshields<br /> 5 Warriors w/blaster - Venom - Nightshields<br /> 3 Jetbikes<br /> <br /> Ravager w/ Lances - Nightshields<br /> Ravager w/ Lances - Nightshields<br /> Ravager w/ Disintegrators - Nightshields<br /> <br /> and then depending on points you could add:<br /> <br /> Wraithknight, Warwalkers or Warpspiders<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Valek]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ohh, I see what you're saying. I'll make sure he comes and checks this out. <br /> Thank you for the feedback! <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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