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Archon: agoniser, combat drugs, shadow field 120
elites
4 True Born: 4 blasters
Venom: splinter cannon, nightshields 183
4 True Born: 4 blasters
Venom: splinter cannon, nightshields 183
troops
10 Warriors: dark lance
Raider: nightshields, splinter racks 195
10 Warriors: dark lance
Raider: nightshields, splinter racks 195
9 Wyches: 1 Hekatrix upgrade, agoniser, haywire grenades
Raider: nightshields 213
5 Wyches: 1 Hekatrix upgrade, power weapon, haywire grenades
Venom: splinter cannon, nightshields 155
fast attack
9 Reavers: 1 Arena Champion upgrade, agoniser, 3 heat lances 264
5 Scourge: 2 splinter cannons 130
5 Scourge: 2 splinter cannons 130
heavy support
Ravager: 3 dark lances, nightshields 115
Ravager: 3 dark lances, nightshields 115

1998pts

What do you guys think?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5877942.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5877942.page GMT MEQ left and right, drop the agonizers. Venom blades do better than the agonizer against every type of armor but 3+. It is also a poisoned weapon, so you can re roll to wound when your S is greater than or equal to your enemies toughness.

The archon should probably spring for a huskblade and some other CC toys, or go cheap and cheerful with a venom blade. The hekatrixes should both take venom blades as well.

The 5 body wytch squad in the venom is just about killing tanks with haywires, cc is really a last resort for this squad. Drop the trix and spend the points elsewhere.

Arena champ again should take a venom blade. The main point of the champ is LD and a challenge chump should you end up in CC.

The warrior raiders would benefit heavily from splinter racks and should drop the dark lances. Raiders should be mobile, but the lance can only snap shoot if the raider moves.

Your list has plenty of AI, might want to give the scourges some AT weapons like heat lances or blasters. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5879671.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5879671.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5879995.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5879995.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5880404.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5880404.page GMT DE do NOT work well in that fashion. Either you want to be all shooting or all HtH. Split your focus and you fail miserably.
Also, in a 2000 point list, I NEVER go with less than 3 Heavies. most often, I take 3 Ravagers but, occasionally, will remove one and take a flyer for "fun." I prefer Ravagers, though.
With the huge amount of lances DE have, I typically take only one with Dark Lances, though.

Also, you should NEVER take a DE vehicle without Flickerfields AND Night Shields. I have never failed to get my points worth out of them (we jokingly call then F*ckerFields in my group).

Splinter Racks on the Raiders is smart. I like Blasters in the Troops, too, though... and a Sybarite with NO upgrades for the LD9 boost.

Keep in mind that I almost NEVER play a HtH DE army. I just haven't found one that is good enough - especially in the shooting focused 6e environment.

FWIW, I am at a 90% to 95% win ratio with my DE against everything except the newest Tau, DA, Eldar & Daemons codices (we haven't had time to get to those yet).

Eric

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5881782.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5881782.page GMT cc element. Are the wyches so weak that it would be better to just drop them for a ravager or more warriors? I was hoping to use them to mess with my opponents' target priority since both the true born and reavers will also be moving up field. I also have gotten 2 DE army boxes i would hate to not do anything with all those wyches.

I will look into points for flicker fields though. Tipping on a phone so i can't edit the list so easy atm.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5882250.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/541873/5882250.page GMT