Powerguy wrote:
Despite what you said in your post I would suggest that you are seriously short on anti infantry torrent. The Guardians really can't be relied on to deal with massed infantry because a) they are you scoring b) they are made of paper and c) they are very short ranged (putting both them and the Serpent in close). Functionally you have 3 HYMP, 1 Pie plate and 5 Serpent Shields to deal with infantry, which is nowhere near enough. Fast assault armies like Flesh Hound Daemons, Chaos Spawn, Necron Wraiths etc will all be on you by turn 2, and assuming they have some of there own fire support with the amount of firepower you have to work with they probably wouldn't even need to commit until turn 3-4, just sit in the midfield and control space. Honestly I think you are seriously overestimating the amount of AV13-14 you will need to deal with, simply changing 3 of those Serpents to have Scatters and underslung Cannons would make this list quite a bit more balanced. AV11-12 spam is quite a bit less common than it was, and S6 spam deals with that better in any case. 6th is much more infantry heavy, and this list feels like it has been designed for 5th.

Overall there is quite a bit of stuff in here which doesn't really make sense. The Farseer is basically going to do nothing since he can't cast out of a Serpent and the bulk of your army is twin linked in the first place. The Ethereal literally does nothing in this list (other than give up a VP? not sure if that is just if he is the Warlord or not). The 3 Suits give you far less than the equivilent points in Fire Warriors (you can't re-roll scatter, so you have to be very lucky to do much Deep Striking in). You can almost buy a unit of Jetbikes by dropping the Ghostwalk Matrix off all the Serpents. I would far rather have a Wraithknight over a Riptide in this list as well, it gives you a credible combat threat to stop people simply running straight into you.

Brothererekose wrote:
TK, may I humbly suggest a generous re-think on your XV8 contingent? What you have (light sarcasm here ) makes me sad. Soo, much wasted potential.

No ethereal. Instead a Helios (PR/FB) Shas'O (Irid Armor, too). 2 more Helios buddies. The 3rd XV8 of the elite unit is promoted to 'Vre, and given the MSS and C&CN toys. Now all have AP2 yum, yum guns, Twin-Linked and Ignores Cover. It's killed 95% of what I've pointed it at. I add two GunDs for ablatives & the PNeuroChip. The ATT posters have named it the 'KingFisher'.

Yes, it'll eat into your DA points, but not all DAVUs need a full 10 space-elves, right?

 Tomb King wrote:

Brothererekose wrote:
TK, may I humbly suggest a generous re-think on your XV8 contingent? What you have (light sarcasm here ) makes me sad. Soo, much wasted potential.

No ethereal. Instead a Helios (PR/FB) Shas'O (Irid Armor, too). 2 more Helios buddies. The 3rd XV8 of the elite unit is promoted to 'Vre, and given the MSS and C&CN toys. Now all have AP2 yum, yum guns, Twin-Linked and Ignores Cover. It's killed 95% of what I've pointed it at. I add two GunDs for ablatives & the PNeuroChip. The ATT posters have named it the 'KingFisher'.

Yes, it'll eat into your DA points, but not all DAVUs need a full 10 space-elves, right?

The farsight enclave doesn't have access to the tau signature items. Instead I take from the farsight enclave signature items. My previous taudar list had an iridium armored commander with no weapon. His sole perpuse was to twin link his squad, give them tank hunter, and ignore cover.

The 3 suits I have now are troops and a tax I have to pay for getting the riptide with the earth caste array. The added benefit is they are scoring and I can deep strike them on a hidden obj to flame someone.

 Tomb King wrote:
The farsight enclave doesn't have access to the tau signature items. Instead I take from the farsight enclave signature items.

bogalubov wrote:

 Tomb King wrote:

Brothererekose wrote:
TK, may I humbly suggest a generous re-think on your XV8 contingent? What you have (light sarcasm here ) makes me sad. Soo, much wasted potential.

No ethereal. Instead a Helios (PR/FB) Shas'O (Irid Armor, too). 2 more Helios buddies. The 3rd XV8 of the elite unit is promoted to 'Vre, and given the MSS and C&CN toys. Now all have AP2 yum, yum guns, Twin-Linked and Ignores Cover. It's killed 95% of what I've pointed it at. I add two GunDs for ablatives & the PNeuroChip. The ATT posters have named it the 'KingFisher'.

Yes, it'll eat into your DA points, but not all DAVUs need a full 10 space-elves, right?

The farsight enclave doesn't have access to the tau signature items. Instead I take from the farsight enclave signature items. My previous taudar list had an iridium armored commander with no weapon. His sole perpuse was to twin link his squad, give them tank hunter, and ignore cover.

The 3 suits I have now are troops and a tax I have to pay for getting the riptide with the earth caste array. The added benefit is they are scoring and I can deep strike them on a hidden obj to flame someone.

It seems like you've mentioned a lot of taxes for the ability to bring the earth caste riptide. It seems like one riptide does not put out enough dakka to go through such troubles to bring one. Most people will probably ignore him and chase your serpents.

 The Shrike wrote:
Slow your roll, are you sure supplements are allowed at nova? I would check before basing list decisions on that. Iyanden maybe but farsight just dropped and the final mission brief comes out Aug 1...

 Cpt Stubbs wrote:
Can the Riptide take the earth caste pilot array? In their army listing they do not have access to signature systems. I wanted to do the same thing but it looks to me like the only Riptide in the game that can bring one is the special character.

 Lucarikx wrote:

 Cpt Stubbs wrote:
Can the Riptide take the earth caste pilot array? In their army listing they do not have access to signature systems. I wanted to do the same thing but it looks to me like the only Riptide in the game that can bring one is the special character.

If you look where it says that Crisis suits can be Troops it also says that Riptides can take Sig. systems.

@OP: Why don't you just take regular Tau? Get the same stuff, drop the Crisis suits, get FW (or Kroot!) and spend the extra points on a few Tau PF. That would be decent because you have so much invested into allies.

Lucarikx