fartherthanfar wrote:
I make sure that the doom of malantai comes out last so that they use up all their shots on my big boys which can take the shots.
actually i heard that this kind of list is what works best against Tau


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mycetic spore NEEDS to go in reserve so they dont count towards the 50% rule

 The Shadow wrote:
I'd drop the second unit of Zoanthropes. As much as I love them, I don't think that six is necessary, especially with the Doom in tow. Perhaps a unit of 2 and a unit of 1 as an alternate setup.

With the points you've saved, I'd try and squeeze in another Tervigon (and obviously 10 Termagants with it to make it Troop), just because in the not unlikely event of you rolling a double on your Tervigon in Turn 1, you're not completely screwed over as far as Troop Units go.

 FlingitNow wrote:
Why is challenging a disadvantage on an MC surely it is the main reason you take the Prime Upgrade?

 FlingitNow wrote:
He gains the character unit type if he becomes a Prime.

 eimaj wrote:

 FlingitNow wrote:
He gains the character unit type if he becomes a Prime.

Where does it say this? I didn't see it in the FAQ?

 FlingitNow wrote:
He gains the character unit type if he becomes a Prime.

zaak wrote:

 FlingitNow wrote:
He gains the character unit type if he becomes a Prime.

Nope. Stand alone MC

 FlingitNow wrote:
Play a few games and you'll understand what I mean...

zaak wrote:

 FlingitNow wrote:
He gains the character unit type if he becomes a Prime.

Nope. Stand alone MC

 fartherthanfar wrote:
@ elric Greywolf
hey, is it just me or is the Mawloc immune to the warp quake psychic power? its say in his rules that if he deepstrikes under units not to roll on the deepstrike mishap table. so as long as he deepstrikes under a unit he cannot be affected by that spell since its says not to do it.
maybe this could help me against greyknights.

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

 fartherthanfar wrote:
@ elric Greywolf
hey, is it just me or is the Mawloc immune to the warp quake psychic power? its say in his rules that if he deepstrikes under units not to roll on the deepstrike mishap table. so as long as he deepstrikes under a unit he cannot be affected by that spell since its says not to do it.
maybe this could help me against greyknights.

When Deep Striking, a unit will mishap if it lands on an enemy unit. The Mawloc has an exception to this, meaning that he MAY land on an enemy unit.
HOWEVER, Warp Quake says: "Any enemy unit deploying by Deep Strike within 12" of the squad (after scattering) will automatically suffer a Deep Strike mishap." Is landing on my GK unit being within 12" of the GK unit? Yep! So while the Mawloc overcomes one source of Mishap (landing on enemy models), it does not overcome the second source (Warp Quake).
You need two exemptions, and you only have one.

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
I'm not sure how it can make things "disappear," unless you mean that "models that can't be moved are destroyed"; but I've never actually seen that happen, since it's pretty impossible to find no space to move the models.

 fartherthanfar wrote:

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does it cost anythign to take the warpquake power? cuz since its so good against deeptrikers but does nothing against anything else I assume few list will actually pay points to get something that will only be of some use one out of three game or so.

I'd drop the second unit of Zoanthropes. As much as I love them, I don't think that six is necessary, especially with the Doom in tow. Perhaps a unit of 2 and a unit of 1 as an alternate setup.

With the points you've saved, I'd try and squeeze in another Tervigon (and obviously 10 Termagants with it to make it Troop), just because in the not unlikely event of you rolling a double on your Tervigon in Turn 1, you're not completely screwed over as far as Troop Units go.

 fartherthanfar wrote:
Switched the Regeneration to the Tervigon on OP

what starts on the board is the 2 flyrants and the Mawlocs, the termagaunts stay in reserve to last longer.

The only thing I can do against Instant death is fill the room with Shadow in the warp so that psykers (Jaws of the world wolf) fail their psyckic test, a force weapon still requires a psychic test to ID right ?

 fartherthanfar wrote:
So I've been talking to people and realized one of the things that could make my plan to make stuff dissapear not work would be the scatering potential of the deepstriking mawlocs.
so what is it that nids have that can help for this? that right! another of the extremely cool but exceedingly underused models, the lictors!!!! or even Deathleaper.
why are they underused? cuz they suck. but they can allow me to deepstrike without scattering which is what I need.
I hate losing a elite slot for this but I guess I can deal with it.
it would also make my list cooler by using yet another dude that never sees the light of day.

so what do you think of this list :

285 1x Hive Tyrant / Wings / 2x TL Devourer BLW / Hive Commander
260 1x Hive Tyrant / Wings / 2x TL Devourer BLW

50 10x Termagaunts
225 1x Tervigon / CClaws / TS / Catalyst / Onslaught
160 4x Tyranid Warriors / Mycetic Spore

220 3x Zoanthrope - Mycetic Spore
130 1x Doom of Malantai - Mycetic Spore
130 2x Lictors

200 1x Trygon
170 1x Mawloc
170 1x Mawloc

Total 2000pts

this list is hilarious

 FlingitNow wrote:
But the Mawlocs auto come on or also come in on a 2+ as well how are you keeping them in reserve for an extra turn and how are you stopping your opponent from simply moving away from them?

 fartherthanfar wrote:
turn 1 : flyrants move forward and Mawlocs burrow
turn 2 : all deepstrikers come out INCLUDING Mawlocs
turn 3 : clean up time

the opponent doesnt have the option to move out of the way since it all happens on the same turn

Nah you have to be on the board the turn before for both parts. It is why Lictors are completely pointless...

 fartherthanfar wrote:
The reason I chose Warriors is twofold.
first, this list is all about making the opponent have a really hard time choosing where to send his Str8+ shots and the warriors fill this role well since their major weakness is their vulnerability to Str8+ shots, (also keeping them as cheap as possible to avoid it costing me too much if he does end up choosing to shoot the wariors with strong shots).
everything in this list (Gaunts are the exception) are either really tough (T6 or more) or T4 with multiple wounds. so the opponent needs to choose with care where to send those shots.

the second reason is because Warriors are scoring dudes that can Deepstrike, Deepstrike being the key thing here since I want to have more bodies to throw arround the board to surround the opponent so that when the Mawlocs come out, the opponent has no place to go and just plain dissapears for my convenience. I have only a few choices of people that could deepstrike and sure I could go with gargoyles which do have a better reputation than Warriors but they dont help my Str8+ required to hurt me tactic.
also I like the warriors, they are so classic and no one uses them so I want to be a dude that does use them and still wins.



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Damn!!!
I just re-read the rule for pheremone trail and even though I was right in saying that a different sentence means that the first mention that he has to have been on the board for the rule to work is only for the +1 to reserve roll.
there is a freaking other mention about him needing to be on the boarsd for the no scatering thing too!!!!!

freaking lictor is so bullshiiiitttttt!!!!!

why even make the pheremone trail rule if you cant use it?????!!!
I know, so the lictor can start on the board like a douche and walk slowly forward and then dudes can deepstrike right beside him so they arent any more forward then if they didnt deepstrike at all!!!!!
that a freaking great rule!!!!!
they thought the shiit out of this one!!!!


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so the list come back to being this

285 1x Hive Tyrant / Wings / 2x TL Devourer BLW / Hive Commander
260 1x Hive Tyrant / Wings / 2x TL Devourer BLW

50 10x Termagaunts
225 1x Tervigon / CClaws / TS / Catalyst / Onslaught
190 5x Tyranid Warriors / Mycetic Spore

160 2x Zoanthrope - Mycetic Spore
160 2x Zoanthrope - Mycetic Spore
130 1x Doom of Malantai - Mycetic Spore

200 1x Trygon
170 1x Mawloc
170 1x Mawloc

Total 2000pts

douchy freaking lictor!!!!!

 Ratius wrote:
Any pics of the Mycetics?
Are they tourney legal might I ask? (looking to model some myself - size/shape/height etc).

 fartherthanfar wrote:
@ Zaak

I do see what your going for with the mass lictors but Zoan and Doom can do the same only WAYYYYY better. the mycetic spores are bigger thus more ground covered and the zoan/Doom are on the same bases as the lictors so the ground covered that the opponent cant get pushed to is about the same, sure the turn 3 you get more precision on the no scatering from next mawlocs comming out of the ground but I expect the game to be already mostly done at that point and alot less people to be on the board so not nearly as potentially powerfull for the 3rd turn.
the doomd and Zoan are so much stronger and more usefull, and cheaper and tougher and hit harder and more versatile .... god im so pissed at lictors right now....
sorry about this Dakka