http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 40k and im trying to get a decent beginners list going here's what im thinking

HQ:
Belial- sword of silence

troops:
Death wing terminators - assault cannon and chain fist

Death wing terminators- assault cannon and chain fist

Scout squad- camo cloaks and sniper rifles

elite:
Dreadnaught- 2x twin linked assault cannon

Dreadnaught- 2x twin linked assault cannon

this gives me 10 points left for whatever. the idea is that the scout sqauds will be back field objective holders and the dreadnaughts will bring some long range fire from the back while the deathwing do what they do. please give feed back id like to know what i can improve on and maybe any tips and tricks for someone just starting out thank you ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5890733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5890733.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5891032.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5891032.page GMT lol ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5891153.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5891153.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5891330.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5891330.page GMT
It does look like a less expensive list because 1/2 of your points come from Dark Vengeance, but that doesn't mean beginner. Granted, 10 termies in a 1k list with a couple of dreads does sound like it may hold up pretty well. As far as getting plasma, if you proxy that assault cannon and drop the chainfist (you probably won't need the chainfist if you're slogging) you'll actually have points left over for other stuff. Plasma's a much safer bet on a termie than anything as they get a much better save against get hot and can still move and shoot a plascannon normally.

Also, consider the fact that you could be running after up to 5 objectives. Spread your troops too thin with chasing down theirs and you could lose just on the basis that you don't have anything to grab an objective with.

I played the crusade a couple days ago and got stomped because I was running my terminators around without a solid objective-grabbing unit (and he used those new turrets and was plating my models every turn).

Those autocannons are good Str7, but lacking AP to give you a bonus on the damage table. Also, you have 4 TL S7 shots to use. In a 1k game, that could really hurt.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5891497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5891497.page GMT . What if I changed my assault cannons to cyclone missle launchers ? Would that be better or are plasma cannons still the better choice?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5891927.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5891927.page GMT PC/PF.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5892761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542656/5892761.page GMT