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				<description><![CDATA[ So I was working on my Skaven army that has over 140 infantry at present and thinking of dipping them.<br /> <br /> I am using an off the shelf varnish that I've had decent results with before but on my ratmen it's just not providing a rich enough tone for what I am after (possibly because I am using too bright of a base colour etc).<br /> <br /> As such I am thinking of taking the plunge and getting some Army Painter varnish instead. Anyone had experience with both kinds that would care to elaborate on the differences? <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> is much more expensive, but I know it will last at least this army and probably several more.<br /> <br /> Thanks in advance.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:33:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> What off the shelf variant are you using? Minwax Polyshades?<br /> <br /> And what color are you using?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:34:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm using MIniwax Polyshade... walnut or dark walnut I think. It's looked good over the brown/canvas/grey scheme's I've used in the past, but now I am trying to work with green/brass and finding it a bit thin. <br /> <br /> I shook the can up before I used it, but it's possible it wasn't enough, again if this is something that Army Painter side steps I would consider getting it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:40:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Very interested in the answers to this-anyone in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span> know of available brands that are an acceptable alternative to army painter and are either much different to using <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> shades and then a varnish, other than cost?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:19:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have used army painter, and the medium is usually good enough for whatever you want, although dark might be better for more organic/dirty models. Never used off the shelf stuff.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:33:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/81b34f92f28ab9ba686bf04aadac3051.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/542860/5893631.page"><b>More Dakka wrote:</b></a><br/>I'm using MIniwax Polyshade... walnut or dark walnut I think. It's looked good over the brown/canvas/grey scheme's I've used in the past, but now I am trying to work with green/brass and finding it a bit thin. <br /> <br /> I shook the can up before I used it, but it's possible it wasn't enough, again if this is something that Army Painter side steps I would consider getting it.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> You might simply try another color. The Tudor and Espresso colors are darker, for example. I'd go that route before spending 5x as much on Army Painter. I know at the hardware stores around me, they carry them in small sizer cans, which is what I used to test out various shades (just big enough to dip a large mini into, like a bike).<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:38:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Try actually stirring the can of Polyshades. <br /> That pigment will settle on the bottom and youve got to really stir it up to mix it.<br /> <br /> Honestly, I have never used the Army Painter stuff, so I cant give a review of the product other than its awfully expensive for a can of stuff that I can get at Lowes for an eigth of the cost.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:41:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ah, that might be it, I gave it a serious shake but it might need to be stirred instead, will try that out.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:28:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How long do the off the shelf ones last (on the model) i was lead to believe they crack over time like on old plates?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:39:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ On a similar note - what about primers? Are there any off the shelf primers that people use that work just as good? I'd like to find something a little bit cheaper. Specifically looking for black and a matte at the moment...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:44:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have been using cheap car primer from a local shop-dont have a can to hand so i cant tell you the brand at the minute but ive been using them for several years now.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:06:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I go to Wal-Mart and buy the Flat Black "Spray Paint". Its a buck a can and works like a charm!!!!<br /> <br /> Dont get the White though...it has a tendancy to erode the plastic miniatures and puts a rough texture on them.<br /> <br /> But the Black...top notch stuff for a buck a can!!! CANT BEAT <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span>!!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:13:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Minwax black is too dark, so if you get that, you'll want to get some varnish to thin it with.  The Tudor is nice and dark, but I notice Canadian hardware stores sometimes don't have that one.  If you do go with Army Painter, I think you'll find the dark shade to your liking.  It's very similar to the Tudor.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:49:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Re primers totally go for Krylon or similar. For colors I have been getting fancy artist brand spray paints at art stores. They're only about 6-8 bucks a can and many don't need primers (Plutonium is a great brand if you can find it).<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:51:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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