<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? 2D6". That averages 1" more than the normal jet pack jump. But is it worth risking the fact that you might completely fluff it up? In my opinion right now I would stick with the normal jump unless it would be very beneficial to make a leap of faith (eheh) with a warp jump, as long as the consequences of a bad jump are low.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5896794.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5896794.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? Jetpack infantry can only move 6" a turn in the movement phase...not 12". Jump infantry moves 12" in the movement phase. You are confusing the two. So yes, all day long I'll warp jump in the movement phase as that puts my move between 6 -18". The risk is minimal...you only lose a model on doubles. Big deal. I'll take that while I can move 6-18" ignoring terrain...also taking into account that Warp Spiders have battle focus and get to move 2d6" again in the assault phase. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5896881.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5896881.page GMT Re:Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? 2d6 during the assault phase? wasn't that the last codex? (sorry I don't have my BRB, not quite clear on this)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897023.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897023.page GMT Re:Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? 2d6" in the assault phase. They are relentless (which is important to some Tau units, where most jet pack infantry comes from).

Warp Jump is a special move that warp spiders can make going 6+2d6" in the movement phase ignoring dangerous terrain, but losing a model on doubles.

In the old codex, spiders did their warp jump in the assault phase. They had to declare a direction, jump 2d6" and lost a model in doubles. They were also jump infantry moving up to 12" in the movement phase. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897049.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897049.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump?
1) Warp Spider unit type was changed from JUMP infantry (examples include Space Marine Assault Marines) to JETPACK infantry (Most famous example are Tau Crisis Suits)

1a) As a result of this, Warp Spiders move exactly like Crisis Suits. Ie. 6 inch move and 2d6 assault jump.

2) The Warp Jump was moved to the movement phase, allowing Spiders to replace thier 6 inch move with a 6+2d6 + oops I accdentally sucked my Autarch into the warp because I rolled doubles and randomly selected him shenanigans.

Thus. a Squad of Warp Spiders can move

6+2d6 (Warp Jump) + d6 w/ re-roll and shooting (Run, Fleet, Battle Focus interplay) + 2d6 (Jet Pack Rules)

If you are still having trouble wrapping your head around this... 6+5d6 with a shot somewhere in there.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897050.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897050.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897149.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897149.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump?
- 6" + 2d6" movement phase
- 6" run in shooting phase
- 2d6" jump in shooting phase.

That's an average movement of 24.5" a turn. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897185.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897185.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump?
Then the first time I played spiders I had to read the rule twice, that it's 6+2d6 and not just 2d6 inches. I rolled an 11 and my spiders moved 17", then ran another 3 inches in the shooting phase, killed a ravager, and jumped safely out of LoS all in one turn.

It's definitely a huge boost.

To answer the original question, if the 6" jetpack move will get you into range (bearing in mind that you get to run too) then don't risk the jump. But the whole point of warp spiders is that they can cross the table faster than anything to get at targets other units can't reach. I haven't actually ever *not* used warp jump yet when moving warp spiders. It seems like I always need them somewhere.

It's a 1 in 6 chance of losing a spider, no big deal. Safer than deepstriking.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897763.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5897763.page GMT Re:Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? 2d6"
2. Kill something
3. run d6" re-rolling towards cover
4. jet pack 2d6" behind cover.

2 and 3 are interchangeable, rinse and repeat each turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5899101.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5899101.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5899354.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5899354.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? D6"run + 2D6"Jet is more than enough to go from cover to cover.. if you have no target worth sacrificing your squad for.. Which during turn 1-2 is a lot of them... Especially since most players tend not to split their army up too much when versing spiders..]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5899375.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5899375.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5899390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5899390.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5904736.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5904736.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump?
 S.K.Ren wrote:
So how do you determine random allocation? Can you just pick the first model you put your hand to? Or is there actually a system for determining this?


Depends on how many models there are. GW are notorious for not giving a specific method, but any means with equal chance per model works fine. Simplest thing would be the put numbers on pieces of paper and draw from a hat. If there are the right number of models a D6, D8 or D10 would suffice.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5904811.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5904811.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? pg 5 pretty well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5905055.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5905055.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? BRB yet)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5906054.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5906054.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump?
IcyFireKnight wrote:
What does it say? (don't have BRB yet)


Dakka is no substitute for an actual rulebook, but you basically roll dice for it. BTW, your sig made me laugh.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5909502.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5909502.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5909561.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5909561.page GMT Re:Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? PM someone to ask them what randomising is about, but you guys can help me if you want. and thank you

Why 24? Why not 30? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5909696.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5909696.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5932742.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5932742.page GMT Re:Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? OP's question, I use the Warp Jump....but with caution. If I can get into position using normal move, plus battle focus, then I won't warp jump. Typically, it goes like this: turn 1, warp jump and run across the board to get into shooting range of something I want to die. That thing dies or is badly wounded, then I assault jump out of its range for retaliation. Then I spend the rest of the game playing peek-a-boo using normal movement and battle focus, combined with assault jumps, to shoot things to pieces. If I need to, I'll warp jump to get myself to another target or to get away from other fast-movers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5933057.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5933057.page GMT Warp Spiders: Would you rather use the normal jet pack or try for a Warp Jump? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5933513.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/543057/5933513.page GMT